Charles TUBBENHAUER

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Ozships does not have any arrival in 1852 for any vessel named Europa.

This does not agree with 224 tons and may or may not be the vessel Charles arrived on.

Europa. Brig, 190 tons. # 37888. Built at Maitland, UK, 1856; reg. Port Adelaide 9/1864. Lbd 108.2 x 25.5 x 12.1 ft. Captain George F. Graham. Newcastle to Port Adelaide with coal, was forced to seek shelter under King Island, however the anchors dragged in a squall and she went ashore on Sea Elephant Island, off King Island, 17 November 1867. Despite a considerable quantity of the cargo being jettisoned, finally settled onto the rocks and filled with water. The crew escaped unharmed in the boats. The master and three men walked overland to where the Netherby salvage party had been working, but on arrival found that the salvagers had left for Melbourne. They continued on to Cape Wickham where a message was sent to Melbourne. The Victorian Government sent its SS Pharos to rescue the castaways. [TS1],[LK - 224 tons. Built in Aberdeen, 1834],[LV]

Disputed date and place it was built and the tonnage.

 

[DaveHam9]

http://www.aberdeenships.com/single.asp?searchFor=europa&index=99985

Name EUROPA
Construction WOOD
Type BARQUE
Date 1834
Description
Yard Number: 66
Date of Build/Launch: August 1834
Certificate Issued: 2 October 1834

1 deck with a break, 3 masts, barque rigged, standing bowsprit, square stern, carvel built, a woman's bust figurehead
length 89.9' x breadth 23.9' x depth 15.8'
gross tonnage 224 tons

Destined Voyage Shields - Mediterranean.

 

[DaveHam9]

The Europa of 224 tons built Aberdeen is not listed to have sailed to Boston or New York or Hobart.

There seems to be no mention in Trove of the tonnage of the Europa that arrived in Hobart from New York/Boston.

 

[DaveHam9]

Walters, Emelia Charlotte
Record Type:
Births
Gender:
Female
Father:
Walters, Thomas James
Mother:
Emelie, Esther
Date of birth:
10 Jan 1833
Registered:
Hobart
Registration year:
1833
Record ID:
NAME_INDEXES:1082336
Resource:
RGD32/1/2/ no 4678

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't see a departure from Tasmania for Emily/Emelia.

 

[horse]

The Europa of 224 tons built Aberdeen is not listed to have sailed to Boston or New York or Hobart.

There seems to be no mention in Trove of the tonnage of the Europa that arrived in Hobart from New York/Boston.

Yeah, was a submission in a tree, could only take as a guide..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Probably not on the Europa from Liverpool. The Europa of 224 tons of Aberdeen does not seem to have travelled to Boston or Hobart leaving the Europa of unknown tonnage that did travel from US east coast to Hobart in 1852.

 

[horse]

There are a couple of trees pointing to this marriage 1828..

Family Search

Emelia's sister, Frances Caroline Malvena was b. en route to Tasmania, not checked.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I tried finding the family in Departures from Tasmania but kept getting Walker instead of Walter.

Dave

 

[horse]

If this is correct, the family may have been in NSW by 1839.. [*Amelia's mother]

ADI:
Amelia Walter
Registration Year: 1839
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Volume Number: V183924 23A

Geoff

EDIT: *Emily or Amelia

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

??
Death WALTER THOMAS J 12683/1888 THOMAS DIED WALLSEND WALLSEND

WALTER Thomas James Death notice 06FEB1863 Death 64 at Hexham, late of Narellan, formerly of London Sydney Morning Herald 21FEB1863
WALTER Thomas James Death notice 06FEB1863 Death 66 at Hexham, late of Narellan, formerly of London Sydney Morning Herald 21MAR1863
WALTER Thomas James Death notice 06FEB1863 Death 66 at Hexham, late of Narellan The Empire 23FEB1863

 

[horse]

??
Death WALTER THOMAS J 12683/1888 THOMAS DIED WALLSEND WALLSEND

Trees point to 1888 Wallsend.

Geoff

 

[horse]

Thomas may have married 2x more..

1851 - Maria Tuckar. Possible death 1858 Menangle
1858 - Rebecca Sarah Tudor. Death U/K

Geoff

EDIT:
1547/1858
WALTER THOMAS J & TUDOR REBECCA S
CAMDEN

Not seeing the Tuckar marriage? Found.. Family Search

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

There is something odd re the 1888 death reg. No date hits when I search Sep 1887 - Jan 1889.

The date in the index is 7 Feb 1863

 

[horse]

Thanks Geoff.

There is something odd re the 1888 death reg. No date hits when I search Sep 1887 - Jan 1889.

Yeah, nothing coming up on Anc. there are usually one or two suggestions.. Maybe a coroner's inquest?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Sat 21 Mar 1863
Page 8
DEATHS
WALTER—February 6th, at Hexham, Thomas James Walter,
late of Narellan, son of the late Thomas Walter, of Fore-street,
London, aged 66 years.

 

[horse]

WALTER—February 6th, at Hexham, Thomas James Walter,
late of Narellan, son of the late Thomas Walter, of Fore-street,
London, aged 66 years.

Oh! Not seeing anything to corroborate either date?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

6 or 7 Feb 1863 so no idea why index has the year as 1888.

 

[DaveHam9]

Burial V183924 23A/ 1839 WALTER AMELIA AGE 32

Page 2
Burials in the Parish of Saint Philip in the County of Cumberland in the Year 1839
No. 24 Amelia Walter Abode: Cumberland Street, Sydney When Died: 4 March 1839 When Buried: 7 March 1839 Age: 32 years Ship's Name: - Quality or Profession: - By whom the Ceremony was performed: William Cowper