Charles TURTLE

[DaveHam9]

The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 6 Mar 1897 p.1
Deaths.
TURTLE.-March 5, at his residence, 18 King-street, Newtown, Charles Henry Turtle, aged 42 years.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/14101870
The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 6 Mar 1897 p.16
Funerals.
THE FRIENDS of Mr. CHARLES TURTLE, Jun., late of Kingston, are respectfully invited to attend the Funeral of his late beloved father, Charles H. Turtle; to move from his late residence, 18 King-street, Newtown, TO-MORROW (Sunday) AFTERNOON, at a quarter to 2, for C. E. Cemetery, Rookwood.
ERNEST ANDREWS CO., Undertakers, King-street, Newtown.

THE FRIENDS of Mr. and Mrs. CHARLES TURTLE, Sen., are respectfully invited to attend the Funeral of their deceased beloved SON, Charles Henry; ...

I'm totally confused but it seems I'm missing a birth and a death for a Charles Turtle.

 

[DaveHam9]

??
TURTLE CHARLES M 2536/1855 V18552536 42B CHARLES MARY S

The only one in NSW index born 1855 +/- 2 years but middle initial should be H.

There should be a death after 1897 for another Charles.

 

[DaveHam9]

Death TURTLE CHARLES 9164/1923 CHARLES B - SARAH - KOGARAH

TURTLE Charles Death notice 23MAY1923 Death 88 late of Sans Souci, formerly of Newtown Sydney Morning Herald 24MAY1923

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thu 24 May 1923 p.8
DEATHS
TURTLE.-At his residence, Leichhardt, Bonanza-parade, Sans Souci, Charles Turtle, in his 89th year, formerly of Newtown.

 

[DaveHam9]

Then there should be a Charles here. I had assumed there was not one because of the 1897 death.

1913 NSW Electoral Roll - NEWTOWN - NEWTOWN POLLING-PLACE
TURTLE Lydia, 12 King street, greengrocer

Death 12997/1940 TURTLE LYDIA - SAMUEL - ANN - MARRICKVILLE

The Sydney Morning Herald - Mon 24 Jun 1940 p.8
DEATHS
TURTLE.-June 23, 1940, at her residence, 16 Brereton Avenue, Marrickville, Lydia, relict of the late Charles Henry Turtle, senior, of Newtown, in her 85th year.

Lydia is buried at Rookwood not Woronora.

 

[DaveHam9]

Also Charles & Lydia should be in Newtown in 1903.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

A few minutes ago my speed was 25/17 and that should not be so regardless of the amount of water in the pits and ducts where the fibre runs under the footpaths with all the rain we've had today and previous two days.

http://www.farmonlineweather.com.au/station.jsp?lt=site&lc=66062&list=rb

 

[gibbo]

Just to mix things up a little i will post this.
NAA

Title Turtle, Charles Henry; age 39; born - Newtown NSW [occupation - town clerk]
Contents date range 1917 - 1917
Series number MT1486/1
Control symbol TURTLE/CHARLES HENRY
CitationNAA: MT1486/1, TURTLE/CHARLES HENRY
Item barcode 60228046
Location Melbourne
Access status Open
Date of decision 18 Dec 2015
Physical format PAPER FILES AND DOCUMENTS (allocated at series level)
Extent 1 folio
Records authority class number 3885
Date registered 02 Dec 2015
.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

The one with the middle name Henry does not always use it.

 

[gibbo]

Stupid question time.. who or what are we looking?

 

[DaveHam9]

I must be missing a marriage. One of them married a Mary S.

 

[DaveHam9]

Trying to sort 4x Charles with right births, marriages and deaths.

Ok, now it should fall into place.

809/1854 V1854809 41B TURTLE CHARLES - PLEYFORD MARY S - MN

Bap in post #2 for the one with above parents who predeceased his father.

 

[DaveHam9]

So which one is the one in NAA ?

This one is a grocer, as is his father.

1875 MARRIAGES Solemnized in the District of St. Peters
No. 16 September 14th
Charles Henry Turtle - Bachelor - St. Peters - Grocer - under age - Newtown - Charles Turtle - Grocer
Lilia Baker - Spinster - Appin - - - under age - St. Peters - Samuel Baker - Labourer
Married in the parish Church of St. Peter According to the rites of the Church of England
Parties signed: Charles Henry Turtle, Lydia Baker
Witnesses signed: James Charles Lavett, Joseph Baker
By me Stanley Howard Officiating Minister

 

[DaveHam9]

Death for Mary S?

TURTLE Mary Susannah Death notice 06AUG1918 Death 81 late of Sans Souci, formerly of Newtown Sydney Morning Herald 08AUG1918

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15797100

Death TURTLE MARY S 13780/1918 PLAYFORD 81 YRS KOGARAH KOGARAH

I have it sorted now.

 

[gibbo]

case closed?

 

[DaveHam9]

Almost.

I might be missing a birth.

 

[DaveHam9]

The one who died 1897

The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 6 Mar 1897 p.1
Deaths.
TURTLE.-March 5, at his residence, 18 King-street, Newtown, Charles Henry Turtle, aged 42 years.

must have changed occ from grocer to town clerk ??

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok

Birth TURTLE CHARLES HENRY 4676/1878 CHARLES HENRY - LYDIA - NEWTOWN

The one who married Lydia in 1875 was under age so he was the one born 1855.

Or that's the town clerk ??

It's rather hard to follow gibbo. It goes back to 1819 in NSW.

The only puzzle is that NAA record and which Charles it is.

Perhaps this one.

Death TURTLE CHARLES HENRY 599/1953 CHARLES HENRY - LYDIA - BURWOOD

It is solved

Title Turtle, Charles Henry; age 39; born - Newtown NSW [occupation - town clerk]
Contents date range 1917 - 1917

1878 + 39 = 1917

 

[gibbo]

Im calling it a day, i will have another look tomorrow. As you say rather hard to follow

 

[DaveHam9]

You may sleep easy.

TURTLE Charles Henry Death notice 01JAN1953 Death 74 Sydney Morning Herald 02JAN1953

TURTLE, Charles Henry (senr.,
M.B.E.-January 1. 1953. dearly
beloved husband of Evelyn and loved
father of Charles and Gladys (Mrs.
G. A. Weir), aged 74 years.

 

[DaveHam9]

NSW Bap V1836323 21/1836 TURTLE GEORGE - CHARLES - SARAH CJ= CofE Sydney, St James'

Page 23
Baptisms solemnized in the Parish of St. James' in the County of Cumberland in the Year 1837
No. 337 When Baptised: February 12th When Born: August 30th 1836 George - Charles & Sarah Turtle Abode: Sydney Place Quality or Profession: Sawyer By whom the Ceremony was performed: Robt. Cartwright

Looking for more details on George, thanks.