Christian and maiden name of the wife of Thomas Wright.

[RobBadman]

Looking for the maiden name of the mother of Mary Wright whose birth at Sicklington Hall Yorkshire, UK is recorded in 1819. She died in 1885. The father is Thomas Wright 1784-1854.

 

[DaveHam9]

Do these fit?

Mary Wright
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 5 September 1819
KIRKBY OVERBLOW,YORK,ENGLAND
father: Thomas Wright
mother: Ann

Joseph Wright
christening: 27 July 1817
KIRKBY OVERBLOW,YORK,ENGLAND
father: Thomas Wright
mother: Ann

William Wright
christening: 2 December 1821
KIRKBY OVERBLOW,YORK,ENGLAND
father: Thomas Wright
mother: Ann

 

[emeltee]

The earliest baptism I can find is for Jane in 1811. There is this marriage in Spofforth which is only 3 miles from Kirkby Overblow.

Thomas Wright of Kirkby Overblow and Ann Midgeley of Spofforth by Banns 24 May 1809

 

[DaveHam9]

County Yorkshire, West Riding
Place Spofforth
Church name All Saints
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 29
Marriage date 24 May 1809
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname WRIGHT
Groom parish Kirkby Overblow
Bride forename Ann
Bride surname MIDGELEY
Bride parish Spofforth
Witness1 Jonathan MIDGLEY
Witness2 Mark RIDER
Notes by Banns & Certificate
Transcribed by Michael Appleyard
File line number 975


All 7 baptisms on FS HERE

 

[RobBadman]

They look very likely to be correct! Hopefully these names will trigger matches.

Thank you. Below information may be of use to the forum;

John Burnett (5th Generation)
Born:1819 Thorner Yorkshire
Married: Mary Wright
Died: 1889, Shadwell Yorkshire. Aged 70 years.
Parents: Carmi and Hannah Green. (6th generation)
Occupation: stone mason
Mary Wright
Born: 1819 Sicklinghall Yorkshire
Married: John Burnett
Death: 1st February 1885, Shadwell Yorkshire. Aged 66 years.
Parents: unknown
(as per recent information from Family History UK Forum - Thomas Wright and Ann Midgeley)
Childen:
Caroline: 1839-1901
Olave: 1840-1897 (female)
Walter: 1842-1909 (stonemason)
Carmi: 1844- 1910 (stonemason)*
Gaunt Albert: 1848- 1819 (stone mason)
Sarah Ann: 1851-1875 died aged 24
Alice: 1853-1870 (died aged 17 years)
Arthur: 1855-1918 (stone mason)
Mark Wright: 1858
Rose: 1861-1885 (died aged 24 years)
Lily: 1862
Shadwell 9.7 km NE of Leeds city and listed in the Domesday Book in 1086 as Scadewelle.
1861 census John was living with Mary in Shadwell working as a stone mason. Mary was recorded as mason’s wife and shopkeeper. Walter and Carmi recorded as “mason’s apprentice.” Gaunt Albert was 12 and was recorded as a carter.
1871 census John aged 56 was living with Mary in Shadwell on Shadwell Rd about two houses from the parsonage. John, Gaunt Albert and Arthur were all recorded as masons in this census.
In the 1881 census John was listed as a mason and builder. He was living in Prospect House. Mark Burnett was 23, recorded as a mason’s son. Rose Burnett was recorded as his daughter aged twenty.

*Carmi Burnett born in Shadwell was my ggreat grandfather. I am currently searching records to confirm that he died in the UK or is the Carmi Burnett 1844-1910 died in Sydney Australia, where the rest of us on that line were born.

 

[DaveHam9]

Death BURNETT CARMI 5009/1910 JOHN - SARAH - CHATSWOOD * 7 June

BURNETT Carmi Funeral notice 08JUN1910 Funeral late of Gordon Sydney Morning Herald 08JUN1910

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15132070

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Wed 8 Jun 1910 Page 18 Family Notices
FUNERALS
BURNETT.—The Friends of the FAMILY of the late
CARMI BURNETT are respectfully invited to
attend the Funeral of their late beloved FATHER; to
leave his late residence, Ryde-road, Gordon, THIS
AFTERNOON, at 3 o'clock, for St. John's C. of E.
Cemetery, Gordon.
WALTER BRUCE, Undertaker,
380 Lane Cove-road, Crow's Nest. Tel., 923 N.S.


Burnett Carmi 1843? 7 Jun 1910 Age 67 Gordon Anglican Church NSW Cemetery Row GG, Plot 29


Burnett Carmi 17 Jan 1960 Macquarie Park NSW Vaug RC Lwn Row 7, 0022

 

[DaveHam9]

I notice the death reg has mother as Sarah. A copy of the death cert may or may not help depending what fields are filled in by the informant.

An example of a NSW death cert here with lots of details but no mother's name.

Name: Owen FURNER
Date of Death: 2/10/1901
Place: Victoria Street Randwick, NSW
Occupation: General Storekeeper
***: Male
Age: 76
Conjugal Status:
Place of Birth: Sussex, England
Time in Aust Colonies: 65 Years in NSW
Father: Charles FURNER
Occupation: General Contractor
Mother: Unknown
Place of Marriage: 1. New South Wales, Town Unknown 2. Sydney, NSW
Age at Marriage: 1. Unknown 2. 29
Name of Spouse: 1. Unknown 2. Elizabeth Anabella STORRIER
Children of Marriage: 1. Mary E 51, Emily J 49 2. Charles W 43, Arthur G 42, Frederick O 40, Oswald H 34, Amy O 32, Septimus L 29, Living: 1 Female Deceased
Informant: F O FURNER, Son, Randwick
Cause of Death: Heart Failure, Complicating Enlarged Prostate
Length of Illness: Few Days
Medical Attendant: O H REDDALL
Date Last Seen: 2/10/1901
Date of Burial: 4/10/1901
Place of Burial: Wesleyan Cemetery Long Bay
Minister & Religion: H W F [H W T] PINCOMBE, Wesleyan Methodist
Undertaker: Wood and Company
Witnesses: Chas W FURNER, F O FURNER
Registered: 2/10/1901 Randwick
Ref No.: 1901/15108

 

[RobBadman]

Yes, yes thank you, DaveHam9. I have concrete and anecdotal evidence of my Pa who is buried in Macquarie Park, a grave I have visited. He is the Carmi who died in 1960, is my grandfather and my sister who was 6 at the time of his death remembers the house and the event well. My mum was born above the Motor garage that he owned on Ryde Road. Sydney roads have been renamed and redirected so much in the area that trying to connect the Carmi who died in 1910 is a little more complicated. My cousins and I have been confused. however by this 'other' Carmi, his grandfather, who in Aussie records has Sarah as his mother - we were always told it was Mary. His wife is named as Isabella Peddie on my ggrandfather's marriage certificate (which I have) the only marriage for Isabella to Carmi likely being in Ripon 1871 which fits apart from the distance. So is Sarah a badly scripted Mary or were there two Carmi's (cousins) and only one went to Australia?

 

[DaveHam9]

I will do some more searching. Yes, the names of many roads on North Shore have changed. Parts of now Pacific Hwy were called Lane Cove road and Gordon Road.

 

[DaveHam9]

Births Sep Qtr 1844
Burnett Carmi Charles Johnson - Leeds 23 321

Deaths Dec Qtr 1922
Burnett Carmi C J 78 Northampton 3b 60

BURNETT, CARMI CHARLES JOHNSON - JOHNSON
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in LEEDS Volume 23 Page 321

 

[DaveHam9]

Deaths Jun Qtr 1857
Burnett Carmi [76] Tadcaster 9c 314

Deaths Dec Qtr 1878
Burnett Carmi 33 Leeds 9b 335

A birth reg for the one who died in 1878? And for the one who died in Sydney.

 

[DaveHam9]

BURNETT, WALTER - WRIGHT
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in TADCASTER Volume 23 Page 606

Walter Burnett
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 24 Apr 1842
Christening Place: THORNER,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Burnett
Mother's Name: Mary

Two missing ??

BURNETT, SARAH ANN - WRIGHT
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in HUNSLET Volume 23 Page 304

BURNETT, ALICE - WRIGHT
GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in HUNSLET Volume 09B Page 248

 

[DaveHam9]

Carmi's arrival in Australia?

 

[Bootzy]

Did your Carmi Burnett marry a Isabella Perdie? - married 1871 Yorkshire – departed Glasgow 1 Aug 1885 on “loch Ness” for Sydney – arrived 5 Nov 1885 Melb.

Carmi stonecutter 44 with Isabella wife 41, Alice 13, Arthur 11, John 8, Amelia 5 and Mark Burnett 26 also a mason (brother?)

Wife Isabella died April 1900 – SMH burial Wesleyan Cemetery Chatswood.

 

[DaveHam9]

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/14308635

That is curious. There is no cemetery in Chatswood. The closest is Gore Hill and I can't fund the burial there. Nor Macquarie Park.

The one in Field of Mars is in Presbyterian section. St. John's Gordon is CofE.

Death BURNETT ISABELLA 6957/1900 WILLIAM - - ST LEONARDS

 

[Bootzy]

Alice Mary Burnett b 1871 Yorkshire married 6 Aug 1896 Enmore NSW to Robert Thomson & died Feb 1950 Meadowbank NSW


The Sydney Mail Sat 12 Sept 1896
THOMSON – BURNETT – August 6 at the residence of the bride’s parents, Enmore by the Rev Warlow Davies, Robert Thomson to Alice Mary Burnett

 

[DaveHam9]

We have two deaths for a Carmi born about the same time and seem to have no birth reg or baptism for either.

Death for one in Sydney has mother as Sarah. Is that correct or an error by informant or an error reading the image and a transcription to the index by BDM staff?

 

[RobBadman]

Yes to Isabella Peddie per signature on the marriage certificate of son Arthur William to Georgina Parsons in perth WA. Loch Ness is correct also with the young children in tow

 

[RobBadman]

Yes to( 'Aunty Alice'0 Alice Mary - sister of Arthur William. She had a son Dave Thomson, a soldier - I have a signed photo of him in uniform.

 

[RobBadman]

I have a number of items to support all you are advising.