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Another look at this one.

1841
HO107 Piece 1139 Book/Folio 1/43 Page 4
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Registration District: Birmingham
Sub-RD: All Saints
Wm Cook 55 Stone mason
Elizabeth 55
Richard 15
William 13
Milborough (as transcribed/female) 10

1851
HO107 Piece 2062 Folio 108 Page 19
Civil Parish: Aston
County: Warwickshire
Registration District: Aston
Sub-RD: Erdington
Charlotte Mllichamp 50
Isaac son 28
William son 37
Matilda dau 20
Rebecca dau 16
Sarah A dau 12
Mary Cotterill servant
William Cook Visitor 23 stationary? born Ludlow


Marriages Dec Qtr 1859
Cook William Birmingham 6d 309
Upton Eliza Birmingham 6d 309

1861
RG9 ???
Civil Parish: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Registration District: Birmingham
Sub-RD: All Saints
Address: 31 New Hall Hill
COOK William Head 59 ? Stationary emp 32 men Ludlow Shropshire
Eliza Wife 25 Tamworth Warwickshire
Blanche M dau 3mths Birmingham Warwickshire


Family arrived in Australia between May 1861 & 20 Aug 1866 ???

I think 'Stationary' is probably statuary = stone mason/sculptor

So is it William senior or William junior aged 59 in 1861? If it's senior where is junior? I can't see junior employing 32 men. So instead of 'wife' it should be 'daughter-in-law' ?

Where is William senior in 1851?

When did William senior and spouse Elizabeth die?

It is the right marriage by this death in Qld:

Death Reg# 25 Nov 1905/B06197 Cook Eliza - William Upton - Mary Hollis

Can the marriage be found for William UPTON & Mary HOLLIS?

Can they be found in census?

When did they both die?


A few loose ends. :biggrin:

Thanks,

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The 1861 census image is fairly clear, age 59y. Looks like Emp? 2 men, the mark appears to be well above the line denoting 'er' or 'ing'. If you look at the 3 below the 25 there is a difference. This is the excerpt from the image.
 
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Another look at this one.

1841
HO107 Piece 1139 Book/Folio 1/43 Page 4
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Registration District: Birmingham
Sub-RD: All Saints
Wm Cook 55 Stone mason
Elizabeth 55
Richard 15
William 13
Milborough (as transcribed/female) 10
It's a bit messy this one, Dave..
I wonder if this is the same family in 1851 (ages ? again) :rolleyes:

Civil Parish: Harborne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County: Staffordshire
RD: Kings Norton
Sub-RD: Harborne
ED: 1c; Piece: 2050; Folio: 69; Page: 22

William Cook 48 Mar. [b. Ludlow. Occ: see image below]
Elizabeth Cook 49 Mar. [b. do.]
Richard Cook 25 Unm. son. [do. see image]
Wilbrough Cook 20 Unm. dau. [b. Worc. see image]
George Pearce 18 Unm. Neph. [b. Muck Crosse, Heref'. see image]
Thomas Hill 10 Neph. [b. Ludlow. Scholar]
Ann Towell 21 [Servant]
 
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Thanks Geoff.

Ok, it's not 32 men but 2 men. I agree that is not a 3. It clearly says 59 so what to make of that?

Death for William in Qld. is not much help because it says 'about 45 years' in 1880.

It's the same family with Wilbrough and ages are probably more accurate in 1851 than the 1841 ages of 55.


I've had no luck with the marriages or baptisms in FS.
 

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The Queenslander (Brisbane, Qld. : 1866-1939) - Saturday 21 February 1885
KILNER - COOK.-On the 17th February, at Christ Church, Milton, by the Rev. W. Kildahl, William C. H. Kilner, third son of the late Henry Kilner, of Ipswich, to Blanche Mildred Cook, daughter of William Cook, sculptor, of North Ipswich.
 

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The Queenslander (Brisbane, Qld. : 1866-1939) - Saturday 21 February 1885
KILNER - COOK.-On the 17th February, at Christ Church, Milton, by the Rev. W. Kildahl, William C. H. Kilner, third son of the late Henry Kilner, of Ipswich, to Blanche Mildred Cook, daughter of William Cook, sculptor, of North Ipswich.
Ah! I wondered where Blanche had got to :rolleyes:
 

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Possibly
Name: Elizabeth Upton
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1841
Gender: Female
Age: 4
Birthplace: Warwickshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Birmingham
Sub-District: St Paul
Parish: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
 

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Ok, thanks Geoff.


This one for 1851 has Tamworth:

Name: Eliza Upton
Age: 16
Gender: Female
Birthplace: Tamworth, Warwickshire
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Schedule Type: Household
 

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Oh! William possibly remarried though..

Civil Parish: Tanworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
County: Warwickshire
RD: Solihull
Sub-RD: Solihull
ED: 2a; Piece: 2071; Folio: 366; Page: 19

William Upton 56 [b. Barston, War. Farmer]
Sarah Upton 30 [b. Tamworth.] [Age looks like 50 not 30, see image]
Lydia Upton 19
Eliza Upton 16
Rachel Upton 14
Samuel Upton 12
William Upton 9
All offspring b. Tamworth.
 
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I think we have a problem :)

Eliza Upton
christening: 9 November 1834 Tanworth Parish, Warwick
father: William Upton
mother: Sarah Upton

William Upton
christening: 22 August 1841 Tanworth, Warwick
father: William Upton
mother: Sarah Upton
 

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Yes.

No age at death:

Death 25 Nov 1905/B06197 Cook Eliza - William Upton - Mary Hollis

Toowong Cemetery
Portion 18 Section 96 Grave 12
Cook Eliza 26 / 11 / 1905 Unknown


Several Mary Hollis baptised in Birmingham.
 

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