Cornish

[horse]

Hi

Looking for any of this family in 1911

1901
Civil Parish: Hackney
County: London
RD: Hackney
Sub-RD: South-East Hackney
ED: 14; Piece: 231; Folio: 44; Page: 25

Edward Cornish 29 [b. Mile End. Shoe Maker]
Ellen Cornish 25 [b. Bethnal Green]
Edward I Cornish 1/12 [b. Hackney] Should be Edward H if I have the correct family.

Many thanks
Geoff

 

[horse]

Well, not sure what to make of this, whilst checking Ellen's details [maiden name = CASH] I noticed..

1911
Civil Parish: Walthamstow
County: Essex
Street address: 14 Alexander Road, Walthamstow
RD: West Ham
RD No.: 188
Sub-RD: Walthamstow
ED: 6; Piece: 9680; Schedule Number: 342

Edward Cash 39 [b. Mile End. Boot repairer]
Ellen E Cash 34 [b. Bethnal Green]
Edward Cash 10 [b. Hackney]
Alfred J Cash 8 [b. Haggerston] In the Hackney/Shoreditch RD
Florence Goodall 16 servant
Jane Prior 21 boarder

Edward Sr. signs the census as CASH, so looks deliberate

[Alfred J aged 8] No obvious 'Alfred Cash' birth reg.
Births Q4 1902
Cornish Alfred John
Shoreditch
1c, 15

Thoughts/ideas most welcome

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Hmmm... :biggrin:

What is Edward sen mother's maiden name?

 

[horse]

Hmmm... :biggrin:

What is Edward sen mother's maiden name?

Not gone that far back yet, not sure I want to :2fun:

Geoff

 

[horse]

Edward Sr. Birth reg.

Births Q1 1872
CORNISH Edward
Mile End
1c, 588

Geoff

 

[horse]

Edward Sr.

1891
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St James the Great
Town: Bethnal Green
County: London
RD: Bethnal Green
Sub RD: Bethnal Green North
ED: 28; Piece: 263; Folio: 101; Page: 29

Edward Cornish 40 [b. Bethnal Green. Boot finisher]
Mary A Cornish 43 [b. Shoreditch]
Edward Cornish 19 [b. Mile End. Boot Laster]
Henry Cornish 14
Mary A Cornish 11

No doubt it is correct family..

There is a tree suggesting his [Edward Sr] mother is Mary Ann Viner, I haven't checked it out yet..

Geoff

 

[horse]

Edward Sr. g'mother mother looks to be Elizabeth Barker 1802-1871

Geoff

 

[horse]

Edward Sr. b. 1872, this his parents mar.

Edward Cornish
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Age: 22
Spouse: Mary Ann Viner
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Jul 1869
Parish: St John, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father: John Cornish
Spouse: Henry Matthew Viner
Register Type: Parish Register
Occ = Boot Maker [father also Boot Maker]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Since it is Viner and not Cash and his parents were married when Edward was born in 1872 I have no explanation for the change of name to Cash.

I've not seen a change to a wife's maiden name before.

Dave

 

[horse]

Thanks, Dave.

It is strange, unless something happened, such as bankruptcy

Geoff

 

[stockpot]

The London Gazette doesn't record any bankruptcy and nothing re Edward Cornish in the newspapers.

In 1911 Edward & Ellen Cash/Cornish are on Alexander Rd Walthamstow and his parents Edward and Mary Ann are just round the corner on Herbert Rd living with their daughter Mary Ann Taylor. Maybe Edward (jun) wanted to distance himself from his father or the son-in-law that the father was living with?

Edward (jun) was in a 7 room house, with a servant, working on his own account. His father was a "worker", maybe worked for his son (both were boot repairer/maker).

Elaine

 

[horse]

Thanks, Elaine.

I think I'll have to review this one.

I am really looking to prove I have the correct Edward..

Marriages Q4 1927
CORK Harry G Pepper
CORNISH Edward H Goodwin
Goodwin Gladys H E Cornish
Pepper Dorothy I Cork
W.Ham
4a, 937

These look like their deaths:

Edward Henry Cornish
Birth Date: 21 Feb 1901
Date of Registration: Mar 1984
Age at Death: 83
RD: South east Hampshire
Vol: 20
Page: 1775

Gladys Helena E Cornish
Birth Date: 11 May 1904
Date of Registration: Sep 2002
Age at Death: 98
RD: east Devon
Register Number: 2C
District and Subdistrict: 4101C
Entry Number: 101

Geoff

 

[horse]

Hi

Looking for any of this family in 1911

1901
Civil Parish: Hackney
County: London
RD: Hackney
Sub-RD: South-East Hackney
ED: 14; Piece: 231; Folio: 44; Page: 25

Edward Cornish 29 [b. Mile End. Shoe Maker]
Ellen Cornish 25 [b. Bethnal Green]
Edward I Cornish 1/12 [b. Hackney] Should be Edward H if I have the correct family.

Edward Jr. in 1901 age fits the death, the is a concern even on the image it is , though could still be an enumerator error

Geoff

 

[stockpot]

There is an RAF service record on FMP for Edward Henry Cornish, wife Gladys Helena Elizabeth Goodwin, marriage 19.11.27 in West Ham

birth 21 Feb 1901, Hackney, religion Baptist.
Civilian occupation Machinist,
5ft 3in, mid brown hair, blue eyes, fresh complexion

Joined up 9.7.20, was an aero rigger
served at various places including Egypt

Transferred to RAF reserve 29.1.27
Discharged 8.7.32
Address on termination of engagement 44 Cornwall Ave, Southall

written in red across the top of the record is Gosport underlined then some more words ripped off. This fits in with his death being in SE Hampshire.

The 1901 census that you have says born Hackney, same as this record. This must be the same man as in the census!
Elaine

 

[horse]

There is an RAF service record on FMP for Edward Henry Cornish, wife Gladys Helena Elizabeth Goodwin, marriage 19.11.27 in West Ham

birth 21 Feb 1901, Hackney, religion Baptist.
Civilian occupation Machinist,
5ft 3in, mid brown hair, blue eyes, fresh complexion

Joined up 9.7.20, was an aero rigger
served at various places including Egypt

Transferred to RAF reserve 29.1.27
Discharged 8.7.32
Address on termination of engagement 44 Cornwall Ave, Southall

written in red across the top of the record is " Gosport accepts ...." then the rest ripped off.

Elaine

Thanks, Elaine.

That looks good, he d. in Hampshire.

That DoB fits the birth reg, census and death.

Geoff

 

[horse]

Shame his parents messed with the 1911 census, no doubts now.

Thanks again, Elaine. Much appreciated.

Geoff