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[gwendolyn]

A change of tack for me. I am searching for my sister in law who doesn't have much info for the family member. Her name was Mary Ann Daeth (not death). Her father was John Daeth and she was born around 1856 in England. She came to south australia date unknown, and was married in SA to William Mitchell in 1877. I have the family info re children born in SA but nothing from England. Any help will be appreciated.

Gwen

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Gwen,

The name was probably D'Aeth and looking at the registrations the name does not seem to appear as DAETH until 1867. There are others before that including several Mary Ann in different parts of England transcribed as or as errors as DEATH.

Regards,

Dave

 

[woodlander]

Found a couple of Johns and Mary Anns under DAETH in 1861 and a few more in 1871 Gwen but none together and lots listed under Death or other variations. I can't find passenger listed matches or passport applications but not all the years we need to check are covered.
I did notice that Daeth people were in Lancashire, Yorkshire, Suffolk & London - so they were widely spread and seemingly no specific area to help pinpoint them - are there no more clues, however tiny?

 

[gwendolyn]

Afternoon Dave,
I agree about the D'Aeth name. Had a look on the Mormon site and it was listed there. Unfortunately there is not much info available from the S I L but I do know that she was married in south australia in 1877 and had 10 children here.
Mary Ann is such a well used name from way back then and I think it is like looking for a needle in a haystack but will keep plugging on.
Gwen

 

[gwendolyn]

Thanks Woodlander,
Why do I get the curly ones!! I will check with S I L and see if she has any idea where Mary Ann came from. All I can find is that she was obviously in South Australia by 1877 to be able to get married here but nothing else at this stage. Thanks for looking for me. By the way just found out that South Australian births deaths and marriages are coming on line finally but not sure about site yet.
Gwen

 

[crankypants]

Hi Gwen

Online database for South Australia

Newspaper Birth Notices Index from 1960 onwards
Newspaper Death Notices Index from 1972 onwards
South Australia Cemeteries Index
Birth Registration Certificates Index 1842 - 1928
Death Registration Certificates Index 1842 - 1972
Marriage Registration Certificates Index 1842 - 1937

http://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html

cheers
cp

 

[gwendolyn]

Hi cp,
Thanks for the info. I happened to come across it last night while looking for something else. I will still refer back to the genealogy books and cds I have. Thought it may be something else but may still find something worthwhile. I find the site for the four main cemeteries in Adelaide very useful too. Can get death dates after 1972 and the Centennial Park site is good too. Cheers
Gwen.

 

[Angel]

Hi Gwen,

I am a descendant of William Mitchell. I have a little info but you may know some of it. I have John Daethe like this & he was born in Staffordshire approx 1830. Mary-Ann Daethe or Daeth was an only child born in Burton-Upon-Trent in 1856. She married William Mitchell in Pirie Street, Parsonage, Adelaide 3rd July 1876. I hope this will help, I do have a little more info if you want.

 

[gwendolyn]

Hi Angel,
Thank you for that very good piece of info. Jenny my s in l
asked me to see if I could find any info about her Gran but I could only get back as far as the SA connection and she did not know any more. She will be chuffed with your info and it may give me more to work with. We know about the children of William and Mary Ann, their marriages, families and deaths but not the backwards links. Her name is Jennifer Starkey if that helps you and if you need any info let me know. I will get on to her today via her email but probably won't get a reply for a few days.. Thanks again.

Gwen

 

[Angel]

Hi Gwen & Jenny,
Thanks for the offer maybe you can help. I have that William & Mary Ann were both buried at West Terrace Cemetery but could only find Will & his grandaughter in law Kathleen Patricia (which is my hubbies grandma)
Okay so John Daethe's wife died young(name unknown). Protestant. Lived at Burton-Upon-Trent near Birmington. John became an invalid & had the same live-in Housekeeper for 50years. When he died(aged90) Housekeeper & her daughter were allowed to keep the house.William met Mary Ann in Manchester but their familes banned marriage. Mary Ann emigrated 1875 & became housemaid for Mr & Mrs FH Faulding(chemists in Adelaide). William emigrated 1876 & you know the rest, hope it helps.

 

[gwendolyn]

Hi Angel,
See what you mean. Checked the West Tce Cemetery but to no avail. Also checked Centennial Park. Do you know where she resided before she passed away and how old was William when he died. I have several William Deaths in the records but the nearest one lived at Prospect. There are several cemeteries around Adelaide so I am about to embark on a full search. Have also asked Jen if she knows where Mary Ann is buried. Will let you know result.
Gwen

 

[Angel]

Hi Gwen,
They retired to Prospect. William was 86 when he died on 24-8-1941. I think Mary Ann died 8 years earlier on 19-5-1934 of cancer, is that right?

 

[gwendolyn]

Afternoon Angel,
Yes you have the correct death dates and I have had a message from Jenny who is going to have a look in her paper work re the Mitchell family and she thinks that shows where they were interred. Will keep you informed. Apparently she has the Mitchell side but not the Daethe family but she was pleased with the info you sent re John etc.

Gwen

 

[gwendolyn]

Hi Angel, Have checked the Advertiser funeral notices and The Advertiser 21 May 1934 page 3 states that Mary Ann was laid to rest in the Catholic Cemetery West Tce Adelaide on 20th May 1934 and The Advertiser Aug 25 1941 page 12 states that William was laid to rest on Sunday 24 Aug 1941 was laid to rest in the Catholic Cemetery, West Terrace Adelaide. This confirms your info.
According to the notice William was removed from his residence and buried on the same day.
Gwen

 

[Angel]

Hi Gwen,
Thanks for telling me about the Advertisers I had a look and found them excellent. So then I requested from the West Terrace Cemetery why Mary Anne Mitchell did not come up. They just emailed and said that she is buried next to William so cool but said they had to correct the error which stopped us from finding her name on their web site. Their web site will update next Sunday night they said. How is Jenny going has she found any more info back on England end.
Angel

 

[gwendolyn]

Hi Angel,
Glad to hear I was of some help with the cemetery info. Jenny is still scratching around in their container for the info about the family. They moved from Ceduna to Leasingham and a lot of their stuff is still in the big container. Will let you know if she comes up with anything. The Daeth side of her family was a mystery until I got into it and she thanks you for your help.
Gwen

 

[Angel]

Hi Gwen,
Just wondering if you or Jenny has the full family tree of names, births and deaths of William and Mary Ann's families etc maybe a book even, as I only have Will and Mary then Francis and Alice then Francis William and Kathleen then I do know the rest. Can you help?

 

[gwendolyn]

Hi Angel,
Sorry for the delay in replying, I lost my husband of 50 yrs on the 27th April and I have only just read my emails. I have info of 10 children of Will and Mary with marriage info and births of those unions up to 1928. Your email says you have the info on them but did you mean that you needed the info other than that of Francis and Alice and Francis William and Kathleen? It may take me some time to copy the info as I gave the printed version to Jenny but I still have the original hand written info in a book and I can set it out for you. The only problem I see is that it will take quite a bit of space on this medium but I am willing to give it a go. Just give me a bit of time as I am still finalising Barry's passing.

Gwen

 

[woodlander]

Sincere condolences Gwen, sorry to hear of your very sad loss.

 

[gwendolyn]

Thanks Woodlander for your kind thoughts, it was pretty sudden but the cancer finally got him together with his ailing heart. He is now at peace and I had the chance to say goodbye in our own home, not in hospital. I have his photo on the screensaver so I see him nearly every day.

Gwen