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Dakins/Dakyns

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I am new to the forum, having joined in the hope that some kind souls will be able to help me break down what seems to have become an impenetrable wall in my research.

I have been trying to find the birth or baptismal records of four Dakins(Dakyns) brothers born to the same parents, William and Sarah, in Romsey, co. Southampton between 1765 and 1781. The brothers are Thomas(c 1765), William Whitfield(1767), John(1772) and Charles(1781) of whom, various published references all agree on their parentage and place of birth(The Gentleman's Magazine, Alumni Oxonienses, newspaper Obituaries etc).

I have carried out extensive searches through the recognised genealogy search platforms, but cannot find a birth or baptismal record for any one of them. This is particularly frustrating as William Whitfield Dakins, for example, was a prominent member of the clergy(Principal Chaplain to the Forces, Minor Canon & Precentor of the Abbey, founder of the Royal Military Chapel). I have obviously extended the searches beyond Hampshire but with no luck. Whilst I know quite a lot about their lives, occupation and social standing, their birth/baptismal records continue to evade me!

Any assistance, guidance or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
 

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William Dakins
BIRTH 1795DEATH 16 Jan 1800 (aged 4–5)
Westminster, City of Westminster, Greater London, England
BURIAL
Westminster Abbey
Westminster, City of Westminster, Greater London, England Add to MapPLOT South CloisterMEMORIAL ID 198743259 · View Source

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William Whitfield Dakins
BIRTH 4 Feb 1767DEATH 10 Jan 1850 (aged 82)BURIAL
Westminster Abbey
Westminster, City of Westminster, Greater London, England Add to MapPLOT South CloisterMEMORIAL ID 161415490 · View Source
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Susanna Shorter Dakins
BIRTH unknownDEATH 5 Dec 1834
Westminster, City of Westminster, Greater London, England
BURIAL
Westminster Abbey
Westminster, City of Westminster, Greater London, England Add to MapPLOT South CloisterMEMORIAL ID 198743173 · View Source
 
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Thanks for your assistance and efforts, Ellie which is much appreciated. I already have all of this information as well as various copies of the Registers of the Collegiate Church or Abbey of St Peter, Westminster (London 1786) relating to William Whitfield's immediate family. Unfortunately, without the actual birth or baptismal records of any one of the four brothers, the evidence regarding date & place of birth as well as parentage, remains largely hearsay(so to speak!) and leaves me no closer to fully identifying their parents, William and Sarah. I am not being pedantic, but I have learnt that one source of information can quickly become 'established fact' across a wide range of publications of the 19th Century :) Lambeth apparently does not hold the details of W.W.'s baptismal record nor that of his brother, the Rev John Dakins, which is unusual.
 
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Rev William Whitfield Dakins
Gender: Male
Death Age: 83
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1767Death Date: abt 1850
Burial Date: 21 Jan 1850
Burial Place: Collegiate Church of St Peter, Westminster, Westminster, England
 

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Dakins
William Whitfield
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England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Dover, Kent, England
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Dakins

William W

1850
Index To Death Duty Registers 1796-1903
Kent, England
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Dakins

Rev William Whitfield

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1841

Britain, Royal And Imperial Calendars 1767-1973

Great Britain

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Dakins

Rev William Whitfield
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1843

Britain, Royal And Imperial Calendars 1767-1973

Great Britain

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Dakins

Reverend William Whitfield

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1844

London Gazette 1665-2018

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https://edpopehistory.co.uk/entries/dakins/1803-03-21-000000

Dakins 21.3.1803 at Westminster Abbey
Rev William Whitfield Dakins DD of Dover will PCC 1850 (said to have been of Trinity Coll Cambridge, where his son went, so he may have been the William Daking admitted there 1787 priest 1795). Buried Westminster Abbey 21.1.1850 age 83 of St James Dover. Translated History of the Reigns &c from French 1801, Society for Suppression of Vice 1803, see Morning Post 14.5.1803 Rev W Dakins, Cloisters, Deans Yard, Westminster. Rector of St MichaelCrooked Lane 1819, Precentor of Collegiate Church of St Peter Westminster & chaplain & librarian to Duke of York 1827. Son John Horsley Dakins bapt Westminster Abbey 1799, mother Susan
 

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Thank you Ellie for your very kind research - I should have mentioned at the start of this thread that I have built a very comprehensive Dakins/Dakyns family tree over the years, with all the details of William & Sarah's known descendants and associated families. My proverbial brick wall lies in properly tracking down and identifying this 'William and Sarah', which is why I am so keen to locate at least one of the four sons' record of birth or baptism. I need to establish beyond all doubt, that the Romsey Hampshire connection is not a red herring and is still worth pursuing. The obvious lack of any Hampshire record of the family, is causing me to question this line of enquiry!

I thought it best to mention this so as to avoid you the trouble of unearthing information and records that I already have. Your interest and assistance is so very much appreciated, but I do want to ensure that you do not waste your time on unnecessary research :)
 
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Hi Stephen,yes i realise what i am finding you have already found.That is not too say there are atleast 1 you have not found. I have to also records what i have found to keep track. There is a William Whitfield at Glasgow University c1808
 
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