Daliel of Norfolk.

[p.risboy]

Hi Ben. Where would Great Yarmouth records be held, especially non conformists at Filby.

Steve.

 

[benny1982]

Hi Ben. Where would Great Yarmouth records be held, especially non conformists at Filby.

Steve.

Great Yarmouth records would be held at Great Yarmouth Library, Tollhouse Street which is my local. It has Yarmouth parish records and some for the surrounding areas. Best bet is The Forum in Norwich which has all of Norfolk, so would have Filby. Not sure about the date coverage for non conformist Filby though.

Were your people of interest Dissenters, Wesleyan??

Here is some info about the Gt Yarmouth Wesleyan Circuit.

http://nrocat.norfolk.gov.uk/DServe...og&dsqPos=3&dsqSearch=((text)='filby chapel')

Could it be a Dissenters Chapel.

http://www.heritage.norfolk.gov.uk/...essionID=a3eff2fd-566a-4e14-b2b3-8622c506cdb5

 

[p.risboy]

Great Yarmouth records would be held at Great Yarmouth Library, Tollhouse Street which is my local. It has Yarmouth parish records and some for the surrounding areas. Best bet is The Forum in Norwich which has all of Norfolk, so would have Filby. Not sure about the date coverage for non conformist Filby though.

Were your people of interest Dissenters, Wesleyan??

Here is some info about the Gt Yarmouth Wesleyan Circuit.

http://nrocat.norfolk.gov.uk/DServe...og&dsqPos=3&dsqSearch=((text)='filby chapel')

Could it be a Dissenters Chapel.

http://www.heritage.norfolk.gov.uk/...essionID=a3eff2fd-566a-4e14-b2b3-8622c506cdb5

I have no idea what religious persuasion Ben. Just Independant Church. non Comformist Chapel, Great Yarmouth. As for Filby, just non com.
The Meeting House, Unitarian Church , Gaol Street, Gt Yarmouth, is what I have.

 

[benny1982]

I have no idea what religious persuasion Ben. Just Independant Church. non Comformist Chapel, Great Yarmouth. As for Filby, just non com.
The Meeting House, Unitarian Church , Gaol Street, Gt Yarmouth, is what I have.

What were the names of the people you are researching?

 

[p.risboy]

What were the names of the people you are researching?

Margaret Daliel c1708, possibly Scratby or Filby, or baptised @ Yarmouth, Norfolk.

Possible parents are Henry Daliel & Margaret Ives. (Married 1708 & Scratby, Norfolk.)

There is a Margaret Ives baptised 1687 @ The Independant Meeting house, Gt.Yarmouth. Dau. of Thomas & Elizabeth Ives.

All this is circumstantial, as no baptism has been found for Margaret Daliel, but buried in 1779 @ St Nicholas, Gt.Yarmouth. Married name of Haw.


Steve.

 

[p.risboy]

Moved this part of the thread from Idle chit chat, to General chatroom.

Steve.

 

[benny1982]

I notice she wed William Haw on the 15th November 1729 in Great Yarmouth. Bachelor and spinster and both of Gt Yarmouth.

I know Scratby and it is just 2 or 3 miles north of Great Yarmouth.

I take it you have traced their children? If they have children called Henry and Margaret, it may throw more weight on the Henry Daliell and Margaret Ives parents.

 

[emeltee]

If it helps on 16 November 1739, William Haw, a Ropemaker, and wife Margaret baptised a son called Henry Daliel at the Old Meeting House, Gaol Street (Presbyterian).

Unfortunately he was buried at St Nicholas, Gt Yarmouth 5 June 1740.

Emeltee

 

[benny1982]

In 1710 a Henry Daliel of Ormesby left an administration bond. Unfortunately admin bonds are not as informative as wills. The admin bond may be viewable on FamilySearch.

EDIT:

ANW administration bond, 1710, no. 168, Daliel, Henry, of Ormesby

 

[p.risboy]

7 children in all, some of which are mentioned in her Will. Difficult to read, but mentions Samuel Haw, Joseph Haw & John Haw.

Daliel Haw, baptised 1744, Old Meeting House, Gaol Street .

Plus Sarah, Mary & Ann.

Steve.

 

[benny1982]

I have the 1710 admin bond (it is in Latin though) and a Johannes Ives is mentioned.

The rest is in English which lists Margaret Daliel widow and relict of Henry Daliel of Ormesby. He died intestate. John Ives signed as a witness.

Sadly this does not mention children.

 

[p.risboy]

In 1710 a Henry Daliel of Ormesby left an administration bond. Unfortunately admin bonds are not as informative as wills. The admin bond may be viewable on FamilySearch.

EDIT:

ANW administration bond, 1710, no. 168, Daliel, Henry, of Ormesby

Where did you locate that Ben. Can't see it in FS.?

Yes MLT.....thanks for the burial for Henry.

 

[benny1982]

You may have to log in using your free account but here is the link.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSG6-J9R5-Y?i=596&cat=504379

 

[p.risboy]

You may have to log in using your free account but here is the link.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSG6-J9R5-Y?i=596&cat=504379

Johannes/John Ives is named, maybe a brother/nephew.??

Steve.

 

[benny1982]

Luckily Daliel is a rare name but again, the more unusual names seem to have many variants.

Always the missing piece of the jigsaw is the baptism we want. And if we do find a will it mentions children and spouse only and not the more crucial siblings or nephews/nieces. There must be the missing Daliel piece there somewhere.

 

[p.risboy]

A rare name indeed, especially in Norfolk. Not so much in Scotland, I believe.

Dalziel, Dalyel etc etc.

 

[benny1982]

I have a good feeling that Margaret Daliel is the daughter of Henry Daliel and Margaret Ives but again it is trying to prove it. It could take a search of Scratby, Filby, Ormesby etc to find a baptism.

 

[Ian Wright]

Hello,

I am a descendant of Henricus (Henry) Daliel and Margaret Ives. Henry was a minister in the Unitarian Church. He established a chapel in Filby, Norfolk in the early 1700s. It was in disrepair and was demolished in about 1900, and rebuilt. That chapel was damaged by a German bomb in WW2 and the chapel was demolished. However a number of flat gravestones remain and are in a heritage site at Filby. I visited there a few years ago.

I am descended from their daughter Margaret Daliel who married William Haw 15 Nov 1729. Their daughter Ann Haw married Christopher Spanton 30 Mar 1786 at Great Yarmouth.

Their son Christopher Spanton fathered three children with Ann Maria Wright, although they did not marry. Christopher Spanton and Ann Maria Wright were my Gt Gt Grandparents.

Ian Wright, Sydney, Australia

 

[p.risboy]

Hello,

I am a descendant of Henricus (Henry) Daliel and Margaret Ives. Henry was a minister in the Unitarian Church. He established a chapel in Filby, Norfolk in the early 1700s. It was in disrepair and was demolished in about 1900, and rebuilt. That chapel was damaged by a German bomb in WW2 and the chapel was demolished. However a number of flat gravestones remain and are in a heritage site at Filby. I visited there a few years ago.

I am descended from their daughter Margaret Daliel who married William Haw 15 Nov 1729. Their daughter Ann Haw married Christopher Spanton 30 Mar 1786 at Great Yarmouth.

Their son Christopher Spanton fathered three children with Ann Maria Wright, although they did not marry. Christopher Spanton and Ann Maria Wright were my Gt Gt Grandparents.

Ian Wright, Sydney, Australia

Howdy Cousin Ian.

Ann's brother Joseph Hawes, b1736, Yarmouth, is my 5x Grandfather.

William Hawes, b1647, Yarmouth is my 8x Grandfather, son of William & Ann.

Steve.

 

[Ian Wright]

Thanks Steve. Yes we are distant cousins.
I am away on a train trip to Melbourne for a few days, and will get in touch again later in the week.
Regards Ian Wright