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Daniel & Charlotte MORGAN

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Marriages Sep Qtr 1855
Morgan Daniel Merthyr T 11a 486
Beynon Charlotte Merthyr T 11a 486

Looking for the family in 1861.

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Not much at all Emeltee.

No births, no deaths, no arrival.

Marriage 2921/1898 RUNCIMAN JOHN W - MORGAN HARRIET - BATHURST * 24 May

Death 2980/1937 RUNCIMAN HARRIETT ANN - DANIEL - CHARLOTTE - WELLINGTON * 16 Mar 1937

Age 72

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I've tried every combination I can think of but not finding anything at all. I suppose they could have emigrated soon after the marriage but I can't see anything.

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Hi Dave,

The Bushranger Daniel Morgan was born illegitimate in 1833 of poor Irish parents in Sydney and others say he was probably Jack Fuller born Appin NSW the illegitimate son of Mary Owen and George Fuller.
 

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Find A Grave has Harriet as Harriet Ann Runciman and trees on Anc.. have her born 23 Jan 1861 Bathurst to a Daniel & Eliza nee Mannings (1828-1893)

Daniel b 1830? Bath Holloway Somerset – died 8 Feb 1881 Keppel St Bathurst NSW reg 4966 showing parents as Thomas & Charlotte – he married 22 Aug 1852 in Somerset to Eliza Mannings b 14 Sep 1828 Faulkland Somerset – died 1893 Bathurst NSW.

The only birth I can see on NSW BMD that could be Harriet’s for 1861

MORGAN FEMALE 4765/1861 DANIEL – ELIZA – BATHURST + 5 other children being:

MORGAN SUSAN E 4127/1854 V18544127 40 DANIEL – ELIZA – death MORGAN SUSAN E 2225/1854 V18542225 41A - INFANT

MORGAN JOB T 2941/1856 DANIEL - ELIZA – BATHURST – Job Thomas Morgan died 1937 Annandale NSW – Parents Daniel James & Elizabeth and Trove has SMH Tue 15 June 1937
MORGAN. — June 14. 1937, at his residence,Percival-road, Stanmore. Job Thomas (late of Bathurst and Casino), beloved husband of Henrietta Morgan and father of Arthur, Ida. Thomas. Dorothy. Linda, Daphne, Amy, Charles, Frank, and Robert, in his 82nd year.

MORGAN RUTH C 4617/1858 DANIEL - ELIZA – BATHURST – Ruth Charlotte Morgan married William Henry Boardman in 1880 Bathurst NSW – died 1925 Bathurst – parents Daniel & Eliza

MORGAN JAMES D 5054/1864 DANIEL – ELIZA – BATHURST – died 1928 Randwick NSW

MORGAN ARTHUR H 6020/1867 DANIEL – ELIZA – BATHURST – died 1894 Bathurst NSW

The death for Harriet on NSW BMD shows Harriet Ann Runciman 2980/1937 – Daniel & Charlotte..

NSW Immigrant Passenger List shows – Arrival 7 May 1853 on ship “Blundell” from Cairle – Co. Carom
Daniel Morgan age 23 a carpenter b Bath Somerset – Thomas & Charlotte for parents – mother living in Bath, has brother-in-law Job Manning in Bathurst and a cousin in ???, paid 4 pound for self and family with wife Eliza age 25 b ?? (looks like Faulkland) – parents Job & Ruth Manning living in ?? (looks like Faulkland) – brother Job Manning.

NSW Death BMD - MORGAN DANIEL 4966/1881 THOMAS – CHARLOTTE - BATHURST (parents fit with Arrival)
 
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Death for Job Manning in Bathurst NSW
MANNING JOB 5331/1880 JAMES – RUTH – BATHURST

NSW Gov Gazette Tuesday 13 April 1880
In the will of Job Manning, late of Bathurst, in the Colony of New South Wales, innkeeper, deceased. NOTICE is hereby given, that after the expiration of fourteen days from the publication hereof, application will be made to this Honorable Court, in its Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction, that probate of the -will of the abovenamed deceased, may be granted to Harriet Manning, of Bathurst, in the said Colony, the widow of the said deceased, and the sole executrix appointed in and by the said will.—Dated this 8th day of April, A.D. 1880.

NSW Certificates for Publicans’ Licences has 17 Aug 1866 Job Manning for the Rose & Crown at Bathurst – 1st applied back 15 April 1856

Bathurst Free Press & Mining Journal Sat 31 May 1862
ACCIDENT. — Mr. Job Manning, of the Rose and Crown Inn, Bathurst, and one of the spirited Van proprietors of this district, met with a rather serious accident on 'Wednesday last. He was preparing to load a van for the Lachlan,and having to move a case which was near to one of the horses, the animal struck out and kicked Mr. Manning on the face, inflicting a frightful gash across the cheek, and driving him with great force against one of the wheels of the van. Dr. Maclhattie being sent for, Mr. Manning was immediately conveyed home, and his injuries dressed. Tlhe wounds are of such a character as considerably to affect his health, and he is necessarily confined to his room ; we are glad however to learn from Dr. Machattie, that quiet and care, will most likely restore his patient to good health.
 

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Thanks Val.

Age at death points to 1865. The little info I had pointed to Wales for Harriet.

That's all news to me. I can't say yet if it's correct or not.

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Need a ref from a sibling to the name Runciman.

How lucky can you get? :biggrin:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/118031506

The Bathurst Times (NSW : 1909 - 1925) Fri 11 Dec 1925 p.1
The death occurred at her late
residence, 27 Charlotte-street, this
morning, of Mrs. Ruth Charlotte Boardman,
at the age of 66 years. Deceased
had been ailing for the last month,
and her end was not unexpected.
She leaves a family of four children
(two sons and two daughters). They
are William and Norman Boardman,
Mrs. Bennett and Mrs. J. Power, all
of Bathurst. She also leaves one
sister (Mrs Runciman, of Wellington
),
and two brothers — James Morgan
(Sydney), and Joseph Morgan
(Casino). The funeral will take
place to-morrow morning for the
Baptist portion of the Bathurst Cemetery.

Plus two other papers.
 
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Marriages Sep Qtr 1852
Mannings Eliza Bath 5c 1077
Morgan Daniel Bath 5c 1077


County Somerset
Place Bath
Church name Widcombe - St Thomas a Becket
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 884
Baptism date 19 Sep 1830
Person forename Daniel
Person *** M
Person abode Holloway
Father forename Thomas
Father surname MORGAN
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Charlott
Register note
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MORGAN Daniel 23 Blundell 1853 Sydney and/or Newcastle and wife Reel 2136, [4/4790]; Reel 2464, [4/4929]
MORGAN Eliza 25 Blundell 1853 Sydney and/or Newcastle and husband Reel 2136, [4/4790]; Reel 2464, [4/4929]
 

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County Somerset
Place Hemington
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 146
Baptism date 14 Sep 1828
Person forename Eliza
Person *** F
Person abode Falkland
Father forename James

Father surname MANNING
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Ruth
Register note
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1841
HO107 Piece/ Book Folio 931/11 Folio 49 Page 38
Daniel Morgan
Event Place Lyncombe & Widcombe, Somerset
Residence Note Back Of Half Moon Inn
Registration District Bath
Parish Lyncombe & Widcombe
County Somerset
Jonah Skrine M 60 Somerset
Sarah Skrine F 55 Somerset
Fredrick Skrine M 15 Somerset
Caroline Skrine F 13 Somerset
Emma Skrine F 11 Somerset
Thomas Morgan M 50 Somerset
Charlotte Morgan F 54 Somerset
Thomas Morgan M 15 Somerset
James Morgan M 15 Somerset
Ellen Morgan F 13 Somerset
Daniel Morgan M 11 Somerset
Caroline Morgan F 9 Somerset
Edward* Manley M 35 Somerset
Mary Manley F 35 Somerset
Elizabeth Manley F 3 Somerset
John White M 30 Somerset
Luisa White F 25 Somerset
Thomas White M 5 Somerset
Giles White M 2 Somerset

1851
HO107 Piece 1942 Folio 48 Page 33
Daniel Morgan
Event Place Lyncombe & Widcombe, Somerset, England
Registration District Bath
Residence Note Frys Belle Vue
Gender Male
Age 20
Marital Status Unmarried
Occupation Carpenter Apprentice
Charlotte Morgan Head F 61 Bath, Somerset
Daniel Morgan Son M 20 Bath, Somerset
Caroline Morgan Daughter F 18 Bath, Somerset
 
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HO107 Piece/Book 948/3 Folio 9 Page 15
Name Eliza Manings
Event Place Hemington, Somerset
Registration District Frome
Parish Hemington
County Somerset
James Manings M 50 Somerset
Ruth Manings F 50 Somerset
Henry Manings M 15 Somerset
Ann Manings F 15 Somerset
Eliza Manings F 13 Somerset


I can't find Eliza in 1851.
 

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Hi Dave,
I know its hard unless there's certs to prove it but if you can check the Parish Records for Allsaints Bathurst, you might be able to prove/disprove the family..

1851 census for Somerset – Lyncombe & Widcome
7 Frys Belle Ter? Has:
Charlotte Morgan – head widow – age 61 b Bath Somerset – supported by his family
Daniel son unmarried 21 yrs b same – a carpenter app
Caroline dau unmarried 18 b same Gen servant out of place.

Found a Tree who looks like has paid a researcher and seems to have your Harriet’s birth as 23 Jan 1861 Bathurst and Christening 31 March All Saints Bathurst (Parish Registers) – showing parents as Daniel Morgan & Eliza Mannings.

Daniel & Eliza’s children:
Susan Ellen b 28 Aug 1854 Bathurst & Christned 22 Oct 1854 at Allsaints – died 30 Nov 1854 aged 9 wks

Job Thomas b 24 March 1856 Bathurst & Christened 27 April 1856 Allsaints, married Henrietta Randell 15 Oct 1881 Bathurst – died 1937 Annandale.

Ruth Charlotte b 17 June 1858 Bathurst & Christened 8 Aug 1858 married 4 Feb 1880 Bathurst Baptist Church William Henry Boardman – his death notice - http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/a...les|||l-decade=192|||l-year=1923|||l-month=11

**Harriet Ann Morgan b 23 Jan 1861 Bathurst & Christened 31 March 1861 Allsaints and married Runciman

James Daniel b 15 Nov 1863 Bathurst & christened 17 Jan 1864 Allsaint, married Nora Molloy 1883 Bathurst – died 1928 Randwick NSW

Arthur Henry b 13 May 1867 Bathurst & Christened 7 July 1867 Allsaints – died 1894 buried Bathurst Cemetery.

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Probate for James Daniel Morgan – Gov Gazette Fri 25 May 1928
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/a...e=192|||l-state=New+South+Wales|||l-year=1928

Job Thomas Morgan was buried 15 June 1937 at Independent Cemetery Rookwood – SMH.

Harriet Runciman nee Morgan’s Orbit – Wellington Time 18 March 1937
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/a...runciman&searchLimits=l-state=New+South+Wales

her hubby John’s Orbit – Wellington Time 19 Dec 1932
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/a...runciman&searchLimits=l-state=New+South+Wales
 

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