David BECKETT and Ann RAMSAY

[DaveHam9]

I'd like some help with this one please.

1867 MARRIAGES in the Parish of High Church in the Burgh of Paisley

and the second half:

I'm having trouble with the occupation of David's father Robert and the surname of the minister and the Assistant Registrar.

1866 On the Thirtyfirst Day of December at 57 Broomlands Street Paisley After Banns according to the forms of the United Presbytrerian Church
[Signed] David Beckett Warper Bachelor - 23 - 3 Barclay Street Paisley - James Beckett Shawl weaver Deceased Jane Beckett M.S. Leitch -
[Signed] Ann Ramsay Treadmill worker Spinster - 22 - 57 Broomlands Street Paisley - Robert Ramsay Clerk Package ? Garment ? Isabella Ramsay M.S. McGuire -
[Signed] Jno. Becson ? Minister [Signed] John Arrol Witness Mary Blackley Witness - 1867 December 4th At Paisley William Waters ? Assistant Registrar

 

[barbarajoh]

Hi Dave,

Robert's occupation looks like Clerk/factory /weaver - must have been a jack of all trades.

The registrar looks like William Walter to me, think there is an L and T.

The minister is maybe Beaver.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara.

Yes, I'd agree Clerk/factory/weaver/

Looking at the 'l' in Arrol and the 't' in Beckett they are very tall so I don't see a 'lt' in the Assistant Registrar's name so I'm back to Waters.

Re the minister I'm no sure at all. B.... but not sure how many letters.

The minister on the one below is John Martin. Even the 'n' on John is different to the 'n' on Martin and neither like the last letter of the above minister's name.

Looking at the 'r' on Ann Ramsay Treadmillworker it's very different to the last letter of the minister's name.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I can see three variations of 'n' and 'r' as last letters of words on the page.

I think the hardest thing re the minister is deciding how many letters. Ok, 8 in minister.

 

[DaveHam9]

It could be 'Clerk (factory) Deceased'

The loop at the top of the 'D' and the last 'd' like the Deceased after James Beckett Shawl weaver.


Is the Minister Jas. or Jno. Brown ?


The marriage is 1866 but registered in 1867 hence 1867 at the top and the 1866 inserted in column 2.

 

[barbarajoh]

Yes think you could be right with the deceased. Think you have to take a step back sometimes with the writing and not try and analyse the letters. I know i do my letters differently depending on what they are following or leading into.
Think it is Jas tho not Jno.

the minister could be Brown even! Only way to be sure would look up ministers at that time

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Not sure Barbara.

Looking at the 'a' in Jane, Mary, David and Isabella the right edge of the letter looks different to the middle letter of Jas./Jno.

But there are also three different 'n's on the page.

Dec 1866 United Presbyterian Church.

 

[DaveHam9]

A transcription by someone.

1867 Marriages in the District of Abbey (Landward) in the County of Renfrew
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MCCRAE, JAMES and MARY MUNRO
1867, on the Sixth day of June at Arkleston, District of Abbey Landward
After Banns, according to the Forms of the Unted Presbyterian Church
Groom: James MCCRAE, 33, Mechanical Draughtsman, Bachelor, 4 Stow Place, Paisley
Parents: Andrew MCCRAE, Farmer and Agnes MCCRAE ms WILSON
Bride: Mary MUNRO, 22, Spinster, Arkleston, District of Abbey Landward
Parents: James MUNRO, Joiner and Isabella MUNRO ms MCVEAN
Minister/Witnesses: Jas.BROWN, Minister; Margaret MUNRO, Robert FORSYTH
Reg: 1867, June 7th at Paisley