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David MARTIN & Catherine

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David MARTIN b. 10 Sep 1814 c. 4 Jun 1824 St. Matthew Bethnal Green, London

1841
HO107 Piece/Book 800/6 Folio 11 Page 16
Civil Parish: Great Creaton
Hundred: Guilsborough
County: Northamptonshire
Registration District: Brixworth
Sub-RD: Spratton
ED: 11
Address:
David Martin 25 Minister N
Catherine Martin 20 N

Births Dec Qtr 1847
Martin Oliver Prust Brixworth 15 203

Marriages Mar Qtr 1851
Martin David St Martin 1 155
Wilkie Margaret St Martin 1 155

1851
HO107 Piece 1507 Folio 328 Page 41
Civil Parish: St George Bloomsbury
County: Middlesex
Registration District: St Giles
Sub-RD: St George Bloomsbury
ED: 9
No of Schedule: 149
Address:
David Martin Head Mar 36 Independent Minister of Whitfield Chapel London
Margaret Martin Wife Mar 34 London Middlesex
Oliver P Martin Son 3 Creaton Northampton
Mary Ann Johnson Servant Unm 23 House Servant Duddington Northampton

Looking for the marriage of David to Catherine and Catherine's death.

No baptisms for any children found so far.

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Catherine probably died between Dec Qtr 1847 and Mar Qtr 1851.

Perhaps the marriage is in the NC records.

Oliver's middle name is Prust not Grust. Is that a clue?
 

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Thanks Elaine.

I think Priest is an error.

Oliver donated to a Missionary Society while he was living in Oxfordshire and the name is listed as Oliver Prust Martin. There is another with the same name who married in Ceylon in 1847.

Oliver is way out on a limb. It's one of his uncles who is in my tree.

Several NC ministers in this family. Possibly even Huguenot but I've not tried to prove that.

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Is this Oliver ?

Name: Oliver Prust Martin
Age in 1911: 64
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Northam, Northampton, England
Civil Parish: Hammersmith
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 37 Agate Road, Hammersmith W
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 30
Estimated Marriage Year: 1881
Occupation: ACCOUNTANT CASHIER
Registration district: Fulham
Registration District Number: 3
Sub-registration district: South Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 241
Household Members:
Name Age
Oliver Prust Martin 64
Elizabeth Frederica Martin 64
Oliver Percy Martin 28
Margaret Ethel Martin 26
Alfred Farguharson Hoggins 62
Eleonore Hoggins 59

For 1901 census
Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: South Hammersmith (including Starch Green)
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 47
Folio: 83
Page Number: 38
Household schedule number: 260

His Will
Name: Oliver Prust Martin
Death Date: 21 Sep 1922
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Probate Date: 21 Oct 1922
Registry: London, England

He went off to visit USA via Canada at age 72 leaving a UK address of daughter Edith M Martin at 46 Brabent Gardens London
Name: Oliver Prust Martin
Birth Date: abt 1847
Birth Country: England
Age: 72
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Arrival Date: 24 Oct 1919
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Metagama
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Residence Country: England
Record Type: Manifests
Line Number: 26
 

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I tried to find an obituary for Rev David Martin and mention of his first wife but no luck.
Lots to read about this family of ministers on-line, but nothing about Catherine. I think you would have to buy Oliver's birth cert. to find her maiden name but as it is just a distant branch for you it wouldn't be worthwhile.

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1891 census for Oliver P Martin
Oliver P Marton
[Oliver P Martin]
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth F Marton
Gender: Male
Where born: Creaton, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Walcot
Ecclesiastical parish: St Swithin
Town: Bath
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street address:
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Registration district: Bath - ED, institution, or vessel: 25 - Piece: 1936 - Folio: 89
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Oliver P Marton 43
Elizabeth F Marton 43
Frederitta S Marton 18
Charles U Marton 15
Edith M Marton 11 - as mentioned on his travel to USA
Christine E Marton 10
Oliver P Marton 8
Margaret E Marton 6

He also has a son Olive P Martin b 1885

1881 census
Name: Oliver P. Martin
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Elizabeth F. Martin
Gender: Male
Where born: Creston, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Edgbaston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 69 Wheeleys Rd
Marital Status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Wholesale Jeweller & Watch Manufer Emp 5 Men 7 Boys
Registration district: Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Piece: 2957 Folio: 68 Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Oliver P. Martin 38
Elizabeth F. Martin 33
Fredericka S. Martin 8
Martha O. Martin 7
Charles U. Martin 5
Marian G. Martin 3
Edith M. Martin 1
Christina E. Martin
Hannah Pearson 23
Charlotte Edkins 18
(not transcribed)
 

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Oliver’s Marriage
Name: Oliver Prust Martin
Age: 23
Birth Date: abt 1848
Marriage Date: 14 sep 1871
Marriage Place: Haarlem
Father: F.David Martin
Mother: Martha Oliver
Spouse: Elisabeth Frederika Uhlenbeck
Archive: Noord-Hollands Archief
Original URL: https://www.wiewaswie.nl/perso

Bruidegom:
Oliver Prust Martin
Geboorteplaats:
Spratton (Graafschap Northampton)
Leeftijd:
23
Beroep:
meubelfabrikant
Bruid:
Elisabeth Frederika Uhlenbeck
Geboorteplaats:
Soerabaija (Nederlands-Indië)
Leeftijd:
24
Vader van de bruidegom:
F.David Martin
Moeder van de bruidegom:
Martha Oliver
Vader van de bruid:
Carel Samuel Uhlenbeck
Moeder van de bruid:
Njo Njat
Gebeurtenis:
Huwelijk
Datum:
donderdag 14 september 1871
Gebeurtenisplaats:
Haarlem
Documenttype:
BS Huwelijk
Erfgoedinstelling:
Noord-Hollands ArchiefNoord-Hollands Archief
Plaats instelling:
Haarlem
Collectiegebied:
Noord-Holland
Aktenummer:
199
Registratiedatum:
14 september 1871
Akteplaats:
Haarlem
 

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from Oliver's marriage :-
Father: F.David Martin
Mother: Martha Oliver

Marriage
DAVID MARTIN
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1844
DAVID MARTIN married MARTHA OLIVER
District ST. NEOTS
County Huntingdonshire
Volume 14
Page 425

Looks as if Catherine died before 1844 and there was another wife Martha who was the mother of Oliver.

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Possible for Catherine’s death..
Name: Catherine Martin
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Birth Date: 1821
Burial Date: 23 Mar 1845
Burial Place: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
FHL Film Number: 849416
Reference ID: p270 rn 2159
 

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Will of David Martin

The Reverend David Martin – 11 Feb 1885. The Will of The Rev David Martin formerly of Whitfield Chapel Long – Acre and of 10 Southampton-row Russell-square but late of 84 Priory road Hampstead all in the County of Middlesex Congregational Minister who died 13 January 1885 at 84 Priory road was proved at the Principal Registry by Margaret Martin of 84 Priory road Widow the relict of the sole Executrix – personal effects 3,125 pounds 5s 9d
 

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Thanks Elaine.

Thanks Val.

I've not followed Oliver beyond 1871 census.

I have bits and pieces from newspapers so I'll have to search some more.

The Essex Standard, and General Advertiser for the Eastern Counties (Colchester, England), Friday, June 18, 1858; Issue 1435. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.
Category: News
NEW CONGREGATIONAL CHAPEL AT CHELMSFORD .
"...Rev. George Martin (Pastor)...The "Dedication Prayer" was then offered by the Rev. David Martin (of London), brother of the pastor...

Jackson's Oxford Journal (Oxford, England), Saturday, May 22, 1880; Issue 6636.
Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries .
"PRESENTATION: On Thursday evening the Rev. David Martin, the late minister of the Congregational Chapel, George-street....resignation of the pastorate on account of failing health..."


http://www.hetutrechtsarchief.nl/co...mip1=Marga&mip3=Hijman&mif3=De Bilt&miview=ld

http://thedutchburgherunion.org/journals/vol_1_10/JDBU - Vol 9 No 2 - 1916(1).pdf

My earlier mistake re marriage in Ceylon. Wife was born there.

Search for 'Martin' or go to page 68.

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Closest for a death for a Martha

Name: Martha Ellen Martin
Age: 32
Birth Date: 1817
Burial Date: 3 Jan 1849
Burial Place: St. Martin, Middlesex, England
FHL Film Number: 561153
Reference ID: p 181 n 4

Oliver’s birth – interesting that his Mother has surname of Oliver…
Name: Oliver Prust Martin
Registration Year: 1847
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Brixworth
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 15
Page: 203
 

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Extracted IGI
Mary Ann b. 5 May 1810
James Gough b. 29 Jun 1812
David b. 10 Sep 1814
Josiah b. 29 Oct 1816
Catherine b. 1 Mar 1819
William b. 25 Sep 1821
Elizabeth b. 2 Dec 1823
All baptised on 4 Jun 1824 St. Matthew Bethnal Green
David MARTIN & Mary
Batch: C046981


Mary Ann Martin
Christening Date 24 Jun 1810 Hoxton
David Martin & Mary
Affiliate Publication Number RG4_4530

Others as RG4 as well as per this one - 2nd son named James.

Jas. Gough b. 29 Jun 1812 c. 26 Jul 1812 Academy Chapel Independent, Hoxton, London
David MARTIN & Mary
Batch: C097181

George b. 9 Mar 1828 Dr Williams Library, London
David MARTIN & Mary
Batch: C146208
 
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Deaths Jun Qtr 1867
Martin Mary 84 Hackney 1b 253

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thursday 22 August 1867 p.1
DEATHS
On the 3rd June, at Clapton, near London, in full assurance of faith in Christ, MARY MARTIN, aged 84, mother of Mr. William Martin, of Ulladulla, New South Wales, and of Rev. David Martin, of Oxford, and Rev. George Martin, of Lewisham, London, S.E.
 

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David Martin
Marriage 1 Apr 1805 Hackney, Middlesex

No name of spouse and no other details on FS.

Two sons named David. This one must have died before 1814.

David b. 5 Jul 1806
Christening Date 31 Aug 1806
Christening Place ACADEMY CHAPEL INDEPENDENT, HOXTON, LONDON
David Martin & Mary
 
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Thanks Geoff.

That fits with middle name for son James.

Probably this

Mary Gough
Gender Female
Christening Date 05 Jan 1783
Christening Place SAINT MATTHEW,BETHNAL GREEN,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date 27 Dec 1782
Father's Name Thoms. Gough
Mother's Name Catharine
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C04698-2
GS Film number 855938, 855939


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