David WATSON

[DaveHam9]

1841
Piece: SCT1841/685 Place: Edinburgh -Midlothian ED: 4
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: New Greyfriars
Folio: 59 Page: 11
Address: 6 Heriot Bridge, Grassmarket
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
WATSON David M 45 Clerk or Shopman Outside Census County (1841)
WATSON John M 20 Clerk To Druggist Midlothian
WATSON Jane F 25 Dress Maker Outside Census County (1841)
WATSON Christian F 20 Dress Maker Midlothian
CHISHOLM William M 30 Carrier Journeyman Outside Census County (1841)

Piece: SCT1851/685 Place: Edinburgh -Midlothian ED: 5
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: New Greyfriars
Folio: 725 Page: 14 Schedule: 53
Address: 6 Heriots Bridge
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
WATSON David Head M M 58 Grocer Shopman Lanarkshire - Shotts
WATSON Isabell Wife M F 40 East Lothian - Gladsmuir
WATSON Jane Dau U F 35 Dressmaker Lanarkshire - Shotts
WATSON Cristina Dau U F 31 Dressmaker Midlothian - Edinburgh
WATSON David Son U M 5 Scholar Midlothian - Edinburgh
WATSON Andrew Son U M 3 Midlothian - Edinburgh
WATSON Alexander Son U M 10m Midlothian - Edinburgh
MARSHALL Andrew Visitr U M 22 Cooper Journeyman Midlothian - Leith

Ann Watson born abt 1818 Govan, Lanark - parents David and Christian/Christina Buchanan. I can't find a baptism.

Perhaps Christina was a widow when she married David - Is Buchanan her maiden name?

Looking at the census it appears as though David remarried. I can't find either marriage. Is Isabell's maiden name Napier?

Dave

 

[horse]

Looking at the census it appears as though David remarried. I can't find either marriage. Is Isabell's maiden name Napier?

That does appear to be the only one that fits.

Interesting point.. Following Andrew b. c1848, from 1881 he uses the middle initial and sometimes Inglis. That said he uses [J] in 1881, but he is with brother Alexander, so possibly the same one.

This helps..
WATSON ALEXANDER
DAVID WATSON/ISABELLA NAPIER FR4214 (FR4214)
M
04/05/1850
685/1
600 133
Edinburgh

Geoff

 

[horse]

SP Marriages:
WATSON DAVID
ISABELLA NAPIER/FR6357 (FR6357)
01/07/1844
685/1
670 385
Edinburgh

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

There is a problem given these ...

David c. 2 Oct 1845 TOLBOOTH CHURCH, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN
Father: D. Watson
Batch: C195093

Andrew Inglis c. 18 April 1848 TOLBOOTH CHURCH, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN
parents: Watson

Alexander c. 13 June 1850 TOLBOOTH CHURCH, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN
parents: David Watson

That would mean all three were baptised twice because there are reg with mother as Napier. Or we have two families. ??

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Death 1860 McLUCKIE ANN [WATSON] F GOVAN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 646/01 0137

Ann McLuckie
Died 16 May 1860
Age - 42 [not on index record]
Father - David Watson
Mother - Christina Watson M.S. Buchanan

Just as Jane = Jessie, Jean, Janet so Christina = Christian, Cristina

 

[DaveHam9]

A few more census records might help given this death ...

WATSON
ISABELLA
71
[other surname NAPIER]
1880
685/1 979
St George

Dave

 

[horse]

1871
RD: St George
Parish: Edinburgh New Greyfriars
Add = 6 Hust Ridge
Isabella Watson 58 [b. Gladsmuir]
Andrew Watson 23 [b. New Grey Friars Commercial clerk]
Alexander Watson 20 [do. Blacksmith]
Robert Steward 18 boarder

1881
RD: St George
46 Lauriston street
Alexander Watson 31 [blacksmith journeyman]
David Watson 4 son
John Watson 2 son
Marjory Mathison49 M-i-L
Andrew J Watson33 [Stationer's clerk]

1891
RD: St Andrew
34 Jamaica St
Andrew Inglis Watson 43 [Mercantile clerk]
Agnes Watson 40 wife
Edmund Wilkie 5 [adopted son]
Edmund Watson 5 son
Wife, must be her 2nd marriage

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Two families with mmn Inglis & Napier or one family mmn Napier (ignoring middle name Inglis) and children baptised twice ??

Dave

 

[horse]

Thanks Geoff.

Two families with mmn Inglis & Napier or one family mmn Napier (ignoring middle name Inglis) and children baptised twice ??

I did wonder if Inglis was the maiden name and if she was married previously, Napier could have been her married name.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

But in Scotland I think women remarry using maiden name. ??

I have several who married twice but can't remember the names to find the reg.

Dave

 

[horse]

But in Scotland I think women remarry using maiden name. ??

Yeah, I can never fully understand that

It could still be the wrong family, but there are similarities.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

The three baptisms at Tolbooth Church are on three different dates all on SP with just the father's name.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Well, it seems some remarry using married name.

I have several who married twice from info in death certificate but second marriage not found on index in SP.

I have one who married three times but can't find that at the moment.

Dave

 

[horse]

I can't see an obvious Napier/Inglis marriage

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

WATSON
DAVID
DAVID WATSON/ISABELLA NAPIER FR3972 (FR3972)
M
10/08/1845
685/1
590 163
Edinburgh

WATSON
ANDREW INGLIS
DAVID WATSON/ISABELLA NAPIER FR4064 (FR4064)
M
26/03/1848
685/1
590 343
Edinburgh

WATSON
ALEXANDER
DAVID WATSON/ISABELLA NAPIER FR4214 (FR4214)
M
04/05/1850
685/1
600 133
Edinburgh


All three baptised about a month later at Tolbooth - or the above are births and not the usual baptisms. If the records contains a birth date and a baptism date it's the baptism date that appears in the index. If there is no baptism date then it's the birth date. You can only tell by purchasing the record or by checking on FS for extracted IGI batch records that will tell you.

Very rare to get separate birth and baptism records.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I have one more thing to check. Ok the records on SP for Tolbooth Church have the date of baptism as per IGI

David c. 2 Oct 1845 TOLBOOTH CHURCH, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN
Father: D. Watson
Batch: C195093

Looks like the same family and Inglis comes from further up the tree on Watson or Napier side.

Dave

 

[horse]

Looks like the same family and Inglis comes from further up the tree on Watson or Napier side.

Yeah, that now looks more likely than a 2nd marriage for Isabella..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Can't see the other set on IGI on FS to prove they are birth dates.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

We still don't know if that David in 1841 and 1851 census is the father of Ann Watson born Lanark abt 1818

Ann McLuckie
Died 16 May 1860
Age - 42 [not on index record]
Father - David Watson
Mother - Christina Watson M.S. Buchanan

and can't find the marriage to fit parents as listed.

Dave

 

[horse]

Can't see the other set on IGI on FS to prove they are birth dates.

Probably births in #15, Dave.. Anc has this..

David Watson
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 2 Oct 1845
Baptism Place: Tolbooth Church, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Father: D. Watson
FHL Film Number: 304665

Geoff

EDIT: So those in #4 are baps.