DAVIDSON family

[DaveHam9]

1841
Civil Parish: Weston Under Lizard
Hundred: West Cuttlestone
County: Staffordshire
Registration District: Shifnal
DAVIDSON, Alexander M 50 Gardener Scotland
DAVIDSON, Sarah F 40 N.B.I.C
DAVIDSON, William M 13 Staffordshire
DAVIDSON, Ann F 10 Staffordshire
DAVIDSON, Mary F 7 Staffordshire
DAVIDSON, Alexander M 5 Staffordshire
DAVIDSON, Sarah F 3 Staffordshire
DAVIDSON, John M 0 (9 m) Staffordshire


I'd like the census ref for that one please

1851
HO107 Piece 1987 Folio 172 Page 2
Civil Parish: Weston Under Lizard
County: Staffordshire
Registration District: Shifnal
Address: Garden House, Weston Under Lizard, Albrighton
Alexander Davidson Head 60 Gardiner & bailiff Scotland
Sarah Davidson Wife 53 Worcestershire
William Davidson 23 Gardener Weston
Mary Davidson 16 Servant Weston
Alexander Davidson 14 Under farm bailiff Weston
Sarah Davidson 12 Weston
John Davidson 10 Weston

and a look up for John in 1861.

The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864-1933) - Friday 24 January 1873 p.1
MARRIAGES
DAVIDSON - NOBLE.-On the 31st December, at Stanthorpe, by the Rev. John M'Ara, John Davidson, chemist, Stanthorpe to Elizabeth Alice, eldest daughter of William Alfred Noble, bookseller and stationer, Stanthorpe.

Arrival for John 1851 (1861 ?) - 1872 ???

Thanks,

Dave

 

[emeltee]

Hi Dave,

1841 HO107/0974/f4

I've looked for John in 1861 but can't find him.

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

So the search for John's arrival is 1851 - 1872.

Dave

 

[Bootzy]

Hi all,
off a Tree,
John Davidson, young Englishman, went to Gympie where there was a gold mining rush. Uncle Tom Roper was also there. Tom’s wife Carrie was very ill and he sent word to Aunt Poole asking her to go up and help. Aunt was terrified at the prospect of travelling all night on a coach, but Elizabeth Alice, a brave girl of 18 eagerly offered to go. Elizabeth met John Davidson at Gympie. John was older but a real gallant. Alice was very pretty. They became engaged but Tom Curply had his doubts about the unknown Englishman.
They married eventually in Stanthorpe

He died 1911 Bundaberg age 70 - Trove has info but being transcribed.

Look for arrivals into Qld.
regards
Val

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864-1933) - Friday 10 March 1911 P.4
DEATHS
DAVIDSON.-On the 6th March, at Bundaberg, John Davidson, chemist, aged 70 years. Deeply regretted.

Burial Details:
Surname: DAVIDSON Given Name(s): John
Year of Birth: 1841 Year of Death: 1911
Gender: Male Funeral Director: n/a
Place of Residence: Bundaberg Place of Birth: Shropsh England
Church: Presbyterian Minister: n/a
Grave Details:
Cemetery: Bberg General
Location: B3 Grave Number: P131
Ownership: Private War Grave: No



Elizabeth Alice's mother was Emma Roper.

I know of 8 Ropers but no Tom/Thomas.

 

[DaveHam9]

Baptisms in the Parish of Moreton Bay in the County of Stanley 1851
Elizabeth Alice - William Alfred & Emma Noble Abode: Brisbane Quality or Profession: Baker When Born: January 16th 1851 When Baptised: February 4th 1851 By whom the Ceremony was performed: George Poole [Wesleyan]


I don't know the connection between Roper and Poole.

 

[DaveHam9]

1861
RG9 Piece 1853 Folio 3 Page 2
Civil Parish: Weston Under Lizard
County: Staffordshire
Registration District: Shifnal
Address:
Alexander Davidson 69
Sarah 63
Mary 26
Ellen Holland 16


Deaths Dec 1867
Davidson Alexander 76 Shifnal 6a 396

Deaths Dec 1867
Davidson Sarah 70 Shifnal 6a 396


I'd like a check for burials please.

 

[horse]

Nothing in the BI for either of them in Shropshire or Staffordshire, Dave..

There is this probate for Alexander..

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Alexander Davidson
Probate Date: 26 Feb 1868
Death Date: 22 Dec 1867
Death Place: Staffordshire, England
Registry: Lichfield

 

[horse]

Off for a while, speak later, Dave.

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, thanks Geoff.

 

[Bootzy]

Hi Dave,
from your post...
Elizabeth Alice's mother was Emma Roper. I know of 8 Ropers but no Tom/Thomas.

Thomas Roper was brother to Emma Roper who married William Alfred Noble in 1850 Qld
Thomas Roper according to his actual Death certificate (6 Nov 1914 Lisson Grove Rd Wooloowin Qld age 83 yrs 4 mths 21 days. Parents James Roper a farmer & Elizabeth Wigg born Gr Bentley Essex Ul and 65 yrs in Qld).
Married 1 to Emily Ann Lewis at Moggill Qld 23 yrs (1854) then married 2 Emily’s sister Caroline Lewis (1859) Moggill Qld 28 yrs.
1 son with Emily Ann = Frederick Thomas Roper 58 yrs and 7 children listed for wife no:2 Caroline – deceased 2.3 males
1st wife Emily Roper nee Lewis’s death – Moreton Bay Courier Sat 29 March 1856
DIED.
At Moggill, on the 21st inst., aged 19, deeply regretted, after a lingering illness, borne with Christian fortitude and resignation, Emily Ann, the beloved wife of Mr. Thomas Roper, and second daughter of Mr. Joseph Lewis, of the same place.
The Brisbane Courier Sat 14 Oct 1922
THE LATE MRS. ROPER. For wife no:2 Caroline nee Lewis
Through tho death of the late Mrs T Roper (of Lisson Grove, Wooloowin) Brisbane has lost one of its oldest and well known identities, the deceased lady having been a resident of this city for 73 years. The late Mrs Roper was the second youngest daughter of the late Mr Joseph Lewis (of Gloucester, England), who arrived in Brisbane with his wife and family on November 3, 1849, in the ship Lima, which was the third ship of three that arrived in the colony under the auspices of the late Dr Lang, the other two being the Fortitude and Chaseley. In those days Brisbane was only a bush settlement, so Mrs Roper had seen its wonderful growth and development up to the present time. She was beloved by all with whom she came in contact, doing what she could to help others in a quiet and unostentatious manner. She is survived by four sons and three daughters, who deeply mourn her loss.
regards
Val

 

[Bootzy]

The Brisbane Courier Tues 23 Aug 1881
a baby girl born 6 Aug to Elizabeth Alice and John Davidson also Elizabeth Alice's death age 30 8 Aug 1881 and also of baby Edith Winifred Davidson aged 9 days.

Elizabeth Alice's mother = large article
Recorder Port Pirie Friday 28 Aug 1942
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/96319408?searchTerm=emma noble&searchLimits=

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Val,

Thank you very much.

What do the trees have for Emma? I'm sure they won't agree but one might have a reliable source for her birth/baptism.

Emma ROPER b. 28 Feb 1828 Bentley, Sussex - mother Elizabeth WIGG ?

or b. Ufford, Suffolk - mother Elizabeth HAWARD ?

or Colchester, Essex ?

Bap 14 May 1831 Great Bentley, Essex

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I, William Alfred Noble, do hereby declare that I am a Member of, or hold Communion with, the Wesleyan Methodist Church [signed] W. A. Noble
I, Emma Roper, do hereby declare that I am a Member of, or hold Communion with, the Wesleyan Church [signed] Emma Roper
I, William Lightbody, of North Brisbane, Minister of Wesleyan Church do hereby certify that William Alfred Noble, of Zion's Hill and Emma Roper, of North Brisbane were joined together in wedlock by me on 28th day of February 1850, at North Brisbane, in the presence of James Roper and George Frederick Poole, both of North Brisbane.
Witnesses signed. [signed] William Lightbody Wesleyan Minister


I can't see any marriage in Queensland between a Roper and a Poole.

 

[horse]

I can't see any marriage in Queensland between a Roper and a Poole.

I may have missed something but shouldn't that be Roper & Noble ?

Geoff

 

[horse]

William A Noble
Spouse Name: Emma Roper
Marriage Date: 1850
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Brisbane, Ipswich, Moreton Bay (County of Stanley), New South Wales
Registration Year: 1850
Volume Number: V

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Uncle Tom Roper was also there. Tom’s wife Carrie was very ill and he sent word to Aunt Poole asking her to go up and help. Aunt was terrified at the prospect of travelling all night on a coach, but Elizabeth Alice, a brave girl of 18 eagerly offered to go.

Tom is Emma's brother so who is aunt Poole?

 

[DaveHam9]

That's funny. I did check the index yesterday:

1854 BM750 George Frederick Poole - Mary Ann Roper

That is a church record so event 1850 - 1859. ** It's 24 May 1849 **

It's not in the NSW index. That's odd too being before 1859.

 

[horse]

It's clicked what you meant now

 

[DaveHam9]

Church Marriage BMA0761/1854 Noble William Alfred - Emma Roper

Emma Roper married, on her birthday, 28 February 1850 at Zion's Hill.

Can't find a notice in TROVE

V1850245 84/1850 NOBLE WILLIAM A - ROPER EMMA IS= Wesleyan Methodist Brisbane, Co. Stanley, Ipswich, Moreton Bay (QLD)

That is an example of an event in 1850 that is recorded in both.