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[juliejtp]

New Zealand Eliza Ann Barnett and son John Henry William Barnett. If they did go it would probably bebetween 1871-1873. Eliza and John are in Gloucestershire in1871. Eliza is a widow though no marriage can be found. Husband is also a John Henry William Barnett occ mason, as John’s baptism. Daughter Emily died in 1870. Both GRO index has mmn Sincock. A Eliza Ann Barnett married George Reed 1873 New Zealand. A John Henry William Barnett married in 1896 to Louisa Worthington. Can someone please have a look at the passenger lists.

Thanks 😀

 

[DaveHam9]

Hi Julie.

NZ lists are not set up the way Australian ones are. In fact they are a real pain. You virtually have to know the port of arrival and the year or the port of arrival and the vessel to find any list that might have all the passengers on it.

1871 to 1873. NZ BDM can be searched to give the date of the marriage. Voyage will take about 3 months. NZ deaths in BDM don't give a location.

I'm off to the library now so gibbo might have a look before I get back.

 

[horse]

Hi Julie

Unless I've overlooked something, the only NZ marriage for Reed/Barnett is 1879

NZ BMD:
1879/2741 Eliza Ann Barnett/GeorgeReed

Geoff

EDIT: If that is the case the arrival would be 1871-1879

 

[solidrock2]

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FST6-228

 

[solidrock2]

Hi Julie

Unless I've overlooked something, the only NZ marriage for Reed/Barnett is 1879

NZ BMD:
1879/2741 Eliza Ann Barnett/GeorgeReed

Geoff

EDIT: If that is the case the arrival would be 1871-1879

That fits the possible arrival in 1878.

 

[gibbo]

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FST6-228

Im unsure that is the right passenger list?? The passenger lists notes her as single when should have been widowed and should also have a young son with her. Correct me tho please if i am the one wrong

 

[gibbo]

BARNETT, JOHN HENRY WILLIAM mmn SINCOCK GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 16

NZ death index
1933/1977 BARNETT John Henry William aged 64Y

 

[solidrock2]

Im unsure that is the right passenger list?? The passenger lists notes her as single when should have been widowed and should also have a young son with her. Correct me tho please if i am the one wrong

There is only a column for single women if widowed she is technically single and she has an 11 year old child with her.

 

[gibbo]

Excellent, thanks Keith

 

[solidrock2]

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS18781019.2.3.4?query=charles shepherd
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~shipstonz/genealogy/PassLists/mayqueen1878.html

 

[gibbo]

Possible deaths but can't find anything to confirm

NZ death index

1904/1550 Reed Eliza aged 72
1894/1191 Reed George aged 61 ?? not sure

 

[gibbo]

I still can't confirm its the right Eliza.

WAIKATO TIMES, VOLUME LIV, ISSUE 6460, 7 JULY 1904, PAGE 2
REED: At Claudelands, Kirikirroa, July 5th, 1904, Eliza dearly beoved wifeof George Reed aged 72. Blessed are the dead that die in the Lord. Auckland papers please copy.
The funeral will leave her late residence at 2.30pm tomorrow [Friday]


https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WT19040707.2.7

Eliza Reed [has Jane as 2nd name??]
Hamilton East Cemetery<br/>HEC-AA1-F-154

George Reed [appears to be buried with Eliza]
Hamilton East Cemetery<br/>HEC-AA1-F-154

1904/1550 Reed Eliza aged 72
1911/7644 Reed George aged 82

https://www.hamilton.govt.nz/our-services/do-it-online/cemetery-search/Pages/default.aspx

 

[solidrock2]

Maybe Eliza's birth but no sign of a marriage to a Barnett only a Mary Jane Sincock marrying a James Barnett in 1869 Redruth.

SINCOCK, ELIZA ANN mmn JONES

GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in PENZANCE UNION Volume 09 Page 225

1846 Madron, Penzance Chapelry Eliza AnnSINCOCK John Amelia

 

[solidrock2]

Fathers name not much help....

John Henry William Barnett
Christening Date: 19 Aug 1868
Bristol, St John the Baptist
Father's Name: John Henry William Barnett
Mother's Name: Eliza Ann

 

[solidrock2]

Looks like another child before John Henry William. Clifton is a suburb of Bristol'

BARNETT, JOHN HENRY mmn SINCOCK

GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in CLIFTON Volume 06A Page 135

BARNETT, JOHN HENRY 0

GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in CLIFTON Volume 06A Page 84

John Henry Barnett
Christening Date: 19 Sep 1866
Christening Place St. John Evangelist, Clifton
Father's Name: John Henry Barnett
Mother's Name: Eliza Ann Barnett

1871 Census.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5YV-C32
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[juliejtp]

Hi Julie

Unless I've overlooked something, the only NZ marriage for Reed/Barnett is 1879

NZ BMD:
1879/2741 Eliza Ann Barnett/GeorgeReed

Geoff

EDIT: If that is the case the arrival would be 1871-1879

Your right Geoff. Sorry For the confusion.

 

[juliejtp]

There is only a column for single women if widowed she is technically single and she has an 11 year old child with her. View attachment 5940

That’s the right one. Thanks

 

[juliejtp]

There is only a column for single women if widowed she is technically single and she has an 11 year old child with her. View attachment 5940

This is the right family. Thanks Soliddrock.

 

[juliejtp]

I still can't confirm its the right Eliza.

WAIKATO TIMES, VOLUME LIV, ISSUE 6460, 7 JULY 1904, PAGE 2
REED: At Claudelands, Kirikirroa, July 5th, 1904, Eliza dearly beoved wifeof George Reed aged 72. Blessed are the dead that die in the Lord. Auckland papers please copy.
The funeral will leave her late residence at 2.30pm tomorrow [Friday]


https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WT19040707.2.7

Eliza Reed [has Jane as 2nd name??]
Hamilton East Cemetery<br/>HEC-AA1-F-154

George Reed [appears to be buried with Eliza]
Hamilton East Cemetery<br/>HEC-AA1-F-154

1904/1550 Reed Eliza aged 72
1911/7644 Reed George aged 82

https://www.hamilton.govt.nz/our-services/do-it-online/cemetery-search/Pages/default.aspx

Thanks Gibbo not sure about this one. Have come across Eliza Jane before, will have another look.

 

[juliejtp]

Son John Henry William Barnett died in 1933 Auckland. Eliza and George could be in that area.