DOBSON, RAMSDEN and BOOTH

[DaveHam9]

Marriage Register
St Helen Sandal
Yorkshire
3rd Aug 1845
Richard LEE of full age Bachelor Wool Comber of Dirtcar Father = Benjamin LEE Clothier
Jane RAMSDEN full age Spinster of Dirtcar Father = John DOBSON Mechanic
Both bride and groom made their marks
Witnesses were William RAMSDEN and Harriet BOOTH

1851
HO107 Piece 2328 Folio 136 Page 17
Civil Parish: Alverthorpe with Thornes
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
Registration District: Wakefield
ED:
Jane Lee Head Widow 24 Laundress Wakefield Yorkshire
William Lee son 4 Wakefield Yorkshire
John Ramsden Lee son 2 Wakefield Yorkshire
Harriett Booth Visitor Unm 21 Wakefield Yorkshire

Looking for John Dobson, Jane Ramsden, Harriet Booth and William Ramsden in 1841. I can't find any of them so far. All the hits are in East Riding.

If Jane was a spinster and her father was Dobson then was her mother's name Ramsden? I can't work out how William Ramsden and Harriet Booth fit in. Could Jane and Harriet be sisters somehow?

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriage Register
St John the Baptist
Wakefield Yorkshire
9th Aug 1851
John Stephenson NOBLE of full age Bachelor Engine Driver of Kirkgate Father = William NOBLE Waterman
Jane LEE of full age Widow of Northgate Father = John RAMSDEN Clothier
Both bride and groom signed
Witnesses were Mary HAWKSHEAD and James ASKHAM who both made their mark

 

[emeltee]

Not sure if this helps but I have found the following

1841
HO107/1271/6/F7
New Row, Wakefield
RD Wakefield
Town Horbury
John Ramsden 65
Martha Ramsden 65
Mary Ramsden 40
Sarah Ramsden 20
William Ramsden 15
Jane Ramsden 13
All born Yorkshire

HO107/1271/6/F6
New Row, Wakefield
RD Wakefield
Town Horbury
Sarah Booth 50
Elizabeth Booth 15
Harriet Booth 13
Jane Booth 10
All born Yorkshire

Also a possible birth

Jane Ramsden born 27 Sep 1826, bapt 30 Aug 1829 Horbury St Peter mother Mary child illegitimate

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

Witnesses William Ramsden could be a brother and Harriet a friend/neighbour.

Wakefield fits.

Did Mary Ramsden marry John Dobson?

It would be an error then on the marriage with father as John Ramsden. An assumption perhaps if the reply was 'John' to question of father's name.

The Dobsons all seem to be in East Riding.

One is a mechanic and the other a clothier ??

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

'Dirtcar' would be Durkar, SE of Horbury.

 

[emeltee]

I can't find a Dobson/Ramsden marriage. If Jane was illegitimate she may have made him up just to save face.

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes. Change a mechanic to a clothier. ?

Son John Ramsden Lee as a 'grandson' of James Askham. Did Mary Ramsden marry James Askham? Age fits. - 40 in 1841 and 50 in 1851 b. Wakefield.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Mary Ramsden
Gender Female
Christening Date 15 Sep 1799
Christening Place HORBURY, Yorkshire
Father's Name John Ramsden
Mother's Name Martha
Batch: P007581