Edward Wells Robinson

[Sinkers]

Genealogy G

I am new to this site and am seeking help to find Edward Wells Robinson b c 1874 Brighton or London but possibly lived in Brighton or Hove. His parents are believed to be Henry and Ellen/Helen. Edward travelled to Australia and married Katherine Gertrude Murtough in 1915 In Sydney and lived in Manly And also died there in 1938. Any clues would be gratefully accepted

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello and welcome to the Forum.

Marriage 8680/1915 ROBINSON EDWARD W - MURTOUGH KATHERINE G - SYDNEY

Death ROBINSON EDWARD WELLS 21042/1938 HENRY - HELEN - MANLY

ROBINSON Edward Wells Death notice 30JUN1938 Death late of Manly Sydney Morning Herald 02JUL1938

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17494838

FIRST NAME: Edward Wells
LAST NAME: Robinson
BIRTH: -----
DEATH: 1938-06-30
BURIAL: -----
SITES: CTH-Q-032

No age.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find an Edward Robinson born England 1873 - 1877 in 1881 census in England with parents Henry & Ellen/Helen.

 

[gibbo]

His marriage article says Brighton England

Freeman's Journal (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1932)
Thu 12 Aug 1915

 

[gibbo]

He tried to enlist in WW1 [age is out a tad]

Title Robinson, Edward Wells; age 35
Contents date range 1915 - 1915
Series number MT1486/1
Control symbol
ROBINSON/EDWARD WELLS
Citation
NAA: MT1486/1, ROBINSON/EDWARD WELLS
Item ID
9735881
Series number MT1486/1
Title Applications to enlist in the Australian Imperial Force

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

I have the three families in my tree.

Manly Cemetery
FIRST NAME: James
LAST NAME: Murtough
AGE: 82
DEATH: 1924-12-01
BURIAL: -----
SITES: CTH-Q-030

 

[DaveHam9]

Not confirmed this is the marriage in Sussex but I can't find a birth around 1880 that fits.

Marriages Jun Qtr 1876
ROBINSON Henry - Westhampnett 2b 579
WELLS Ellen - Westhampnett 2b 579

And I can't find the family in 1881 census.

EDIT: Rule that marriage out.

 

[DaveHam9]

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ROBINSON, - - WELLS
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in LONDON CITY Volume 01C Page 14

 

[gibbo]

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ROBINSON, - - WELLS
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in LONDON CITY Volume 01C Page 14

I just crossed referenced the above with free bmd. But you would have already known that birth was a male due to having to submit the ***.

Births Sep 1878
Robinson Male London C. 1c 14

 

[gibbo]

Genealogy G

I am new to this site and am seeking help to find Edward Wells Robinson b c 1874 Brighton or London but possibly lived in Brighton or Hove. His parents are believed to be Henry and Ellen/Helen. Edward travelled to Australia and married Katherine Gertrude Murtough in 1915 In Sydney and lived in Manly And also died there in 1938. Any clues would be gratefully accepted

Do you have the marriage cert. for Edward and Katherine?

 

[horse]

I can't find an Edward Robinson born England 1873 - 1877 in 1881 census in England with parents Henry & Ellen/Helen.

There is this but Ellen is a widow?

Family Search.

Geoff

EDIT: A tree has these as parents

"Henry ROBINSON
1832–1875

Ellen BUSH"
1830–1917

 

[DaveHam9]

ROBINSON, LOUIS - BUSH
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 434

ROBINSON, ELLEN - BUSH
GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 83

ROBINSON, EDWARD - BUSH
GRO Reference: 1874 J Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 138


No marriage for a Henry Robinson to Bush ??

 

[DaveHam9]

If born 1874 then Edward made himself younger when he tried to enlist.

 

[Sinkers]

ROBINSON, LOUIS - BUSH
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 434

ROBINSON, ELLEN - BUSH
GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 83

ROBINSON, EDWARD - BUSH
GRO Reference: 1874 J Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 138


No marriage for a Henry Robinson to Bush ??

ROBINSON, LOUIS - BUSH
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 434

ROBINSON, ELLEN - BUSH
GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 83

ROBINSON, EDWARD - BUSH
GRO Reference: 1874 J Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 138


No marriage for a Henry Robinson to Bush ??

His marriage article says Brighton England

Freeman's Journal (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1932)
Thu 12 Aug 1915

 

[Sinkers]

Thanks Dave Ham9 and Gibbo

 

[DaveHam9]

?
Deaths Dec Qtr 1875
ROBINSON Henry 42 Kensington 1a 54

I can't find a death for Ellen that fits.

 

[horse]

Not sure if this is helpful..

A tree has this, not checked or validated..

"Henry ROBINSON was born in 1832 in Portland, Somerset, his father, Edward, was 38 and his mother, Mary, was 36. He had one son with Ellen BUSH in 1874. He died in 1875 at the age of 43."

Geoff

 

[horse]

Not sure if this is helpful..

A tree has this, not checked or validated..

"Henry ROBINSON was born in 1832 in Portland, Somerset, his father, Edward, was 38 and his mother, Mary, was 36. He had one son with Ellen BUSH in 1874. He died in 1875 at the age of 43."

Given that Henry and Ellen are found in 1871, the above looks wrong.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Dunno Geoff.

I can't prove Ellen married twice. I still can't find a marriage that fits. I get Cripps, King and Newell.

Ellen Elizabeth Bush
Christening: 21 Nov 1830
Event Place: Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire, England
Father's Name: Wm. Bush
Mother's Name: Elizth.
GS Film Number 991324
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C072901

 

[horse]

It looks as though Ellen did marry twice, but not seeing anything? Just following through every snippet..

Geoff