Edwin BRAY & Ann Elizabeth FURNER

[DaveHam9]

Ann Elizabeth Bap 26 Dec 1819 Brede, Sussex ?
Francis FURNER & Ann FOSTER ??

Marriages Mar Qtr 1838
Bray Edwin Rye 7 429
Furner Ann Elizabeth Rye 7 429

1841
HO107 Piece/Book 1106/7 Folio 34 Page 13
Civil Parish: Brede
Hundred: Gostrow
County: Sussex
Registration District: Rye
Sub-RD: Beckley
ED: 3
Address: Turnpike Road From Brede Green, Brede
Edwin Bray M 30 Veterinary Surgeon Y
Ann Bray F 20 Y

1851
HO107 Piece 1634 Folio 551 Page 3 ?
Civil Parish: Brede ?
County: Kent ?
Registration District: Romney Marsh ?
Sub-RD: New Romney ?
Address: Brede Hill, Brede ?
Edwin Bray Head Mar M 40 Veterinary Surgeon Winchelsea Sussex
Ann E Bray Wife Mar F 31 Brede Sussex
Ann Baker Relative (other) F 3 Tunbridge Wells Kent


1881
RG11 Piece 1028 Folio 74 Page 5
Civil Pariah: St Mary Magdalen
County: Sussex
Registration District: Hastings
Address: 2 Grand Parade
Annie M. BAKER Head U F 30 Lodging Housekeeper Tunbridge Wells, Kent
Annie E. BRAY Aunt W F 61 Lodging Housekeeper Brede, Sussex
PATTENDEN Isabel servant U F 19 Domestic Servant Hastings, Sussex
WILLIAMS Alice servant F 14 Domestic Servant Tenterden, Kent


The first of several queries.

How is Annie nee FURNER the aunt of Annie BAKER?

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Deaths Jun Qtr 1873
Bray Edwin 61 Lewes 2b 103


No Probate record found.

 

[DaveHam9]

Edwin c. 7 Oct 1806 Winchelsea, Sussex
George BRAY & Ann
Batch: C390868

Ann Bray
Christening Date 13 Dec 1803 Winchelsea, Sussex
George Bray & Ann

Jane Bray
Christening Date 14 May 1809 Winchelsea, Sussex
George Bray & Ann

 

[DaveHam9]

Births Sep Qtr 1847
BAKER Anna Maria Tonbridge 5 482

BAKER & BRAY marriage ??


Ann Elizabeth FURNER may have been an only child.

 

[horse]

Deaths Jun Qtr 1873
Bray Edwin 61 Lewes 2b 103


No Probate record found.

This may be the reason if him...

UK, Lunacy Patients Admission Registers, 1846-1912
Edwin Bray
Admission Date: 20 Dec 1872
Institution: Sussex
Intitution Place: Sussex, England
Death Date: 10 Jun 1873
Death Place: Sussex, England
[Image has nothing else]

Geoff

 

[Ladybird1300]

I think this could be your Anna Maria:

Name: Anna Maria Baker
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 22
Birth Date: 1847
Marriage Date: 8 Aug 1869
Marriage Place: Chart-Next-Sutton-Valence, Kent, England
Father: George Baker
Spouse: Joseph Moore
FHL Film Number: 1835876
Reference ID: it8 p46&47 No 92


Amanda

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I'll have to search the newspapaer archive because I think there is mention of him.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Amanda.

Annie M. is still shown as unmarried:

1891
RG12 Piece 765 Folio 5 Page 3
Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalene
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Hastings
County: Sussex
Registration District: Hastings
Sub-RD: St Mary in the Castle
ED: 22
No of Schedule:
Address: 2 Grand Parade
BAKER Annie M Head Single F 40 Lodging House Keeper Tunbridge Wells Kent
BRAY Annie E Aunt Widow F 71 Brede Sussex
HARRISON Ellen Servant Single F 19 Domestic Servant Herne Bay Kent
TAYLOR Mary A P Lodger Single F 60 Living On Her Means St James London W C
DRAPER Annie Visitor Single F 63 Maid Companion Sherfield Hertfordshire
WANDBY Mary A Lodger Widow F 39 Living On Her Means Penrith Cumberland
WANDBY Cecil Lodger M 11 Stoke Albany Hampshire

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Ann's father. I have no remarriage/death/burial for her mother Ann (possibly nee FOSTER).

Francis c. 11 Jun 1786 Brede, Sussex

Buried 9 Sep 1819 Brede ?

Francis FURNER buried St George Brede Sussex 9 Aug 1819 aged 33yrs ?

Can the baptism and burial dates be confirmed?

Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

1901
Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalene
Search Photos: Search for 'St Mary Magdalene' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County: Sussex
RD: Hastings
Sub-RD: St Mary Magdalen
ED: 09; Piece: 870; Folio: 72; Page: 36

Ann M Baker 54 unm [b. Tunbridge wells. Lodging house keeper]
Augusta Garing 67 boarder
Catharine M Maraman 30 boarder
Ellen L Goodman 19 servant

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Very little Sussex data seems to be on-line. A baptism for Annie M. would help.

I think it would have to be a BAKER & BRAY not a BAKER & FURNER/TURNER marriage.

Dave

 

[horse]

Francis FURNER buried St George Brede Sussex 9 Aug 1819 aged 33yrs ?

Can the burial dates be confirmed?

BI:
9 Aug 1819
Francis FURNER
33
Brede, St George

Geoff

 

[horse]

This may or may not be useful..

BI:
16 Jan 1795
Francis FURNER
Brede, St George
[No age given]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I was given these as the parents of Ann's father Francis:

I can say that the burial dates for Elizabeth and Francis from the Sussex Burials Index are … Francis 16th Jan 1795 St George Brede and Elizabeth 6th Apr 1795 same place.

For many years I thought there was only one possible but this one turned up.

Francis Furner
Event Type Burial
Event Date 1797
Event Place Brede, Rother District, East Sussex, England
Photograph Included N
Birth Date 02 Dec 1762
Death Date Jan 1797
Affiliate Record Identifier 121031495
Cemetery St George Churchyard


It is a direct line and impacts the tree to a great extent because of one missing birth/baptism, that of Charles abt 1795, son of Francis senior & Elizabeth FAIRHALL.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

From SFGH
Baptised at Brede
Francis, 2 Dec 1762 son of Nathaniel & Mary

Which agrees with the second burial so who is the one with no age buried in 1795?


From the Sussex Marriage Index
At Brede, 24 July 1783
Francis Furner & Elizabeth Fairhall
BOTP (B)

 

[horse]

Francis Furner
Event Type Burial
Event Date 1797
Event Place Brede, Rother District, East Sussex, England
Photograph Included N
Birth Date 02 Dec 1762
Death Date Jan 1797
Affiliate Record Identifier 121031495
Cemetery St George Churchyard

Just checked the NBI coverage for St George, Brede = 1559-1899, no gaps given. Source given as SFHG. 4,491 entries, 29% checked.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

No children born after Charles so Elizabeth nee Fairhall must be the 1795 burial.

2x Francis or an error ???

Does not help re son Charles.

Dave

 

[horse]

This may or may not be useful..

BI:
16 Jan 1795
Francis FURNER
Brede, St George
[No age given]

Geoff

Listed as UNCHECKED..

Geoff

 

[horse]

BI:
9 Aug 1819
Francis FURNER
33
Brede, St George

Geoff

Listed as CHECKED..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

A very hot day today. Forecast to hit 40 in some areas of NSW.

Stuck with this one so moving on.

Dave