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Elijah Joel Tyack COLLINGS - 1862/1932 - Qld

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Elijah Joel Tyack COLLINGS was born in 1862. His parents were recorded as James Staines and Christina McDonald Collings. He died, a bachelor, in 1932 when his parents were recorded as James Stain and Christina McDonald McGregor.

What influenced his parents to give him such a distinctive name? His mother's apparent Scottish heritage suggests, if anything, it came from his father's family. I would welcome any information about either one of these three individuals that might throw some light on their identities.

My real interest is in Elijah Teague, b c 1833, who is thought to have migrated to Australia after being acquitted of a charge of murdering his step-father in Cornwall in 1851 although no conclusive proof of him in Australia has come to light.

Elijah's father, William Teague also used the alias William Tyack and at least two of Elijah's siblings were baptised in the name of Tyack. I have yet to trace record of Elijah's baptism. Elijah had an elder brother, Joel.

I realise that it might be entirely coincidental that the names Elijah, Tyack, and Joel should appear grouped in both cases and appreciate that it is likely to be impossible to prove anything different but I felt I needed to ask for the views of others before dismissing the chance of some connection.

Perhaps the crucial question is who was James Staines? Any other comments or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
 

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1914 C4538 James Staines Collings
Father Thomas Collings
Notes - ** born England aged about 72 years

Bowen Independent (Qld. : 1911 - 1954)
Tue 31 Mar 1914

DEATH OF AN OLD BOWEN
IDENTITY.
Mr James Staines Collings, late owner of Florence Court, Ingham, died on Friday last at Townsville Hospital. The deceased had been 6o years in Queensland the greatest portion of which was spent in the North. ‘He was the owner of ColHngvale Station, in this district, where he resided for many years, his wife and family living at Queen’s Beach j and was once a candidate for Parliamentary honours against the late Mr R. H. Smith, by whom he was defeated. He leaves a widow, a son and three daughters
 

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4033 31242 File - land selection
Selection file: COLLINGS, Elijah Joel Tyack
Bowen, 427
8/4/1868 31/3/1887


Lots of entries in Bowen area for land selection for James Staines Collings.
 

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6220 2041631 Ecclesiastical (will) file
COLLINGS, JAMES STAINES
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1/1/1914 31/12/1919

15200 1056810 Insolvency file
COLLINGS, James Staines
137/1870
17/10/1870 4/11/1870


15200 1059973 Insolvency file
COLLINGS, James Staines
2956/1890
2/7/1890 23/4/1894
 

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QLD birth index
1862 C674
Elijah Joel Zyack Collings
James Staines
Christina McDonald Collings

QLD death index
1932 C4041
Elijah Joel Tyack Collings
James Stain
Christina McDonald McGregor

What appears to be a 2nd marriage for his mother, Christina.

1884 C48
Christina Eliza McGregor Collings
John James Shonhan
 

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QLD birth index
1862 C674
Elijah Joel Zyack Collings
James Staines
Christina McDonald Collings

QLD death index
1932 C4041
Elijah Joel Tyack Collings
James Stain
Christina McDonald McGregor

What appears to be a 2nd marriage for his mother, Christina.

1884 C48
Christina Eliza McGregor Collings
John James Shonhan
Nope not a second marriage, appears this Christina is a sister to Elijah :rolleyes:
QLD death index

1951 C4271
Christina Eliza McGregor Shonhan
James Staines Collings
Christina MacDonald
 

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Looks like a birth in NSW

NSW birth index
COLLINGS MARY E 12417/1860
JAMES S
CHRISTINA
TABULAM

A maybe for NSW marriage ??

1997/1859 COLLINGS JAMES HANIS MACDONALD CHRISTINA GRAFTON
1997/1859 COLLINGS JAMES HANIS MCDONALD CHRISTINA GRAFTON

Another maybe for NSW death of Christina snr??

COLLINGS CHRISTINA 1690/1883 RMARGARET HSYDNEY
 

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I've ruled out NZ. That Christina McDonald's married name is McGregor.

So far can't find arrivals for either of them.

I've been looking at the name Staines. Common in Cambs.

Can't find a birth/baptism for James or a marriage for Thomas that seems to fit.

So far can't find anything in 1883 for Christina.
 
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Gibbo and Dave:- many thanks for the wealth of references which I have yet to explore in detail.

At first glance I can see nothing to explain how E J T C came to get his name, and certainly nothing that might link him to Elijah Teague. I had wondered if James Collings was an alias used by Elijah but that seems highly unlikely. (Elijah's mother's maiden name was Cowling).

I can find no record of the marriage between James Collings and Christina McGregor although it looks as if he might have been a partner with her father. If they were not married I cannot imagine him allowing himself to be recorded as the father of another man's child.

Perhaps when I have had chance to give the matter more thought some fresh theories might form but I think, realistically, this is about as far I am going to get.

Thanks again.
 

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I think the records gibbo posted in #13 should be looked at in more detail. I've found nothing yet but there might be something.

Some rather unusual names post 1859 as well.

I found a Cornwall census for 1851 that was a possible with a Thomas and son James but didn't post it because the name Staines is so rare in that county. I could not find a marriage for that Thomas.

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NSW Marriage 1997/1859 COLLINGS JAMES HANIS - McDONALD CHRISTINA - GRAFTON * 22 Oct


Name Registration Number Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
NSW Death COLLINGS CHRISTINA 1690/1883 - R - MARGARET H - SYDNEY * 9 Oct

Can't find a notice in Trove. Can't find a burial (I can't search Waverley Cemetery).

I can't find a death to rule out that James.
 
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Trying to trace Mary E born 1860.

1879 C1132 William Henry Pitchford - Mary Jane Collings
1884 C860 Francis Forbes Bundock - Mary Ellen Collings

Death 1893 C4439 Mary Jane Pitchford - John Collins - ** born New South Wales aged 50 years

One ruled out.

Death BUNDOCK FRANCIS F 15139/1910 WELLINGTON C - MARY E - RANDWICK

Francis Forbes Bundock, third son of Wellington Cochrane Bundock, died in 1910. He was survived by his wife Mary Ellen Bundock, his sisters Mary Ellen Murray-Prior and Alice Louise Bundock, and brother, Charles Wyndam Bundock
 
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