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Eliza GORDON

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Bap V1852739 69/1852 GORDON ELIZABETH - JAMES - MARY

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Baptisms in the Parish of Parramatta in the County of Cumberland 1852
Elizabeth - James Gordon and Mary Little Abode: Parramatta Quality or Profession: Labourer When Born: April 21 1852 When Baptised: May 9 By whom the Ceremony was performed: J J McLennan [RC]

Marriage 3167/1869 WILLIAMS ABRAHAM - GORDON ELIZA - PARRAMATTA * 27 Apr 1869

I didn't find that marriage at St. John Parramatta ??

Death 9204/1886 WILLIAMS ABRAHAM AGE 65 YEARS DIED LIVERPOOL LIVERPOOL * 12 Sep 1886

Now I may have an error in my tree. ?? A tree has a death for Eliza in 1877.

WILLIAMS ELIZABETH 2123/1877 JAMES MARY - BALMAIN

but there is this marriage which is hard to read

4821/1886 EDWARDS JOHN T - WILLIAMS ELIZA - PARRAMATTA * 25 Nov 1886

18 MARRIAGES Solemnized in the District of -
No. - November 25th 1886 St. John's Church Parramatta
John Thomas Edwards - Bachelor - Baulkham Hills - Labourer - 30 - Parramatta - Henry Edwards & Ann - Labourer
Eliza Williams - Widow - Parramatta - - - 38 - Parramatta - James Gordon & Mary Nicholls - Labourer
Married in the Church of St. John, Parramatta According to the rites & ceremonies of the Church of England
Parties signed: John Thomas (his x mark) Edwards, Eliza (her x mark) Williams
Witnesses signed: Alfred (his x mark) Edwards, Emily Godding
By me W. J. Günther Officiating Minister

Mother's name does not look like Little and age at death does not fit birth in 1852.
 
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Death 18261/1937 EDWARDS ELIZA 8O YRS ROZELLE ROZELLE * 20 Aug 1937

The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 21 Aug 1937 p.16
FUNERALS
EDWARDS.-The Relatives and Friends of Mrs. ELIZA EDWARDS are kindly invited to attend her Funeral, which will leave No. 61 Denison Street, Rozelle, THIS SATURDAY, at 1.45 p.m., for Methodist Cemetery, Woronora. WOOD COFFIL LIMITED.

Surname: EDWARDS Type: Burial
First Name: ELIZA Other Names:
Date of Death: 20/08/1937
Location Section Position
Methodist Monumental SECTION 1 0238
 

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WILLIAMS Elizabeth Funeral notice 01SEP1877 Funeral late of Birch Grove, Balmain Sydney Morning Herald 01SEP1877

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13399332
THE FRIENDS of Mr. PATRICK WILLIAMS are
invited to attend the Funeral of his late beloved WIFE,
Elizabeth ; to move from his residence, Iron Cove Road,
Balmain, at a quarter to 3 o'clock, to Balmain Catholic
Cemetery. W. H. WOOD, Undertaker, Darling-street,
Balmain.
THE FRIENDS of CORNELIUS WILLIAM JOHN-
SON are respectfully invited to attend the Funeral of
his late SISTER-IN-LAW, Elizabeth Williams ; to move
from her late residence, Iron Cove Road, Birch Grove, Bal-
main, at 3 o'clock, to the Balmain Cemetery.
 
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It can't be the 1877 death.

Marriage 279/1863 WILLIAMS PATRICK - McCANN ELIZABETH - SYDNEY
 
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Age is clearly written as 38 in 1886 for Eliza - a CofE marriage. That does not fit with 1852 RC baptism nor with age as 80 in 1937. ??

Wrong baptism and wrong death for Eliza ??
 
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Need to find Mary Nicholls.

No CofE baptism 1846 - 1852 for an Eliza/Elizabeth Gordon in NSW index.

Something is very wrong with some RC and some CofE.

Marriage 380/1851 V1851380 97 GORDON JAMES - NICHOLS MARY - LH= RC Parramatta St Patricks

How can Eliza be born 1848 then to be 38 in 1886. ??


1852 RC baptism clearly has Mary Little.

Is Mary a widow when she married James? Maiden name Little.

Is the 1869 marriage to Abraham RC or CofE ??

Little.JPG
 
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I'm lost.

The 1937 death is now ruled out.

One tree has Mary Nicholls a spinster from Ireland so maiden name not Little.

1869 marriage not on FS.
 

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MaryNichols-Denomination Roman Catholic-Marriage year 1851-Registration year 1851-Registration district Parramatta, St Patrick's-State New South Wales-Country Australia-Spouse's James Gordon
Registration number -Volume reference V1851277 146Cross reference -Record set New South Wales Marriages 1788-1945Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish RecordsSubcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
 

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Thanks Ellie.

1886
Eliza Williams - Widow - Parramatta - - - 38 - Parramatta - James Gordon & Mary Nicholls

Age there can't fit and where is a baptism then for an Eliza/Elizabeth with above parents ?

And where is the marriage of James Gordon to Mary Little?

1877 and 1937 deaths ruled out.

And the remarriage was within 3 months.
 
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Elizabeth Williams-Birth year -Death year 1877-Registration year 1877-Age at death -Registration district Balmain-State New South WalesCountry Australia-Father's first name(s) James-Mother's first name(s) Mary
Registration number 2123Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish RecordsSubcategory Civil Deaths & BurialsCollections from Australasia
 

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Thanks Ellie.

1877 ruled out by being married to Patrick.

1937 ruled out by being married to Samuel and buried in same grave.

1851 RC marriage and an 1886 CofE marriage for Eliza Williams a widow aged 38 with parents James Gordon & Mary Nicholls.

No baptism and no death found that fits for Eliza Gordon.
 

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Agnas C Gordon-Birth year 1856-Registration year 1856-Denomination -Registration district Parramatta-State New South Wales-Country AustraliaFather's JamesMother's first name(s) Mary
Registration number 6397Record set New South Wales BirthsCategory Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
 

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Agnes Caroline Gordon-Denomination -Marriage year 1874-Registration year 1874-Registration district Parramatta-State New South Wales-Country Australia Spouse's AlfredEdwards Registration number 3503Volume reference -


Agnes Caroline Edwards-Death year 1939-Registration year 1939-Age at death -Registration district Parramatta-State New South Wales-Country Australia-Father's JamesMother's Mary
Registration number 21667Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish RecordsSubcategory Civil Deaths & BurialsCollections from Australasia
 

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