Elizabeth ACLAND

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Deaths Mar 1863
ACLAND Elizabeth Stoddart Camberwell 1d 349

Spouse is James and it's possible he died in 1847. The name also appears in records as ACKLAND.

I'd like a look up for Elizabeth in 1861 please.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Thanks for looking.

I don't know when Elizabeth Stoddart MULLINS was born.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Eliza Annie Acland
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 14 Jun 1837
Father's Name: James Acland
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Flodderd Acland <--- Stoddart probably
Parish: Holy Trinity, Brompton Road
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
County: Middlesex

You may not be able to find any of them in 1841 if they were in Paddington but you might if they were in Kensington or some other part of London.

Camberwell is in Surrey.

Eliza married in 1847. Eliza and daughter went to Australia when spouse Samuel died.

RILEY Eliza A 33 Nimroud 1855 Sydney and/or Newcastle and daughter Fiche 839
RILEY Amelia 5 Nimroud 1855 Sydney and/or Newcastle and mother Fiche 839
arrival: Nimroud Origin: London Destination: 1855 Oct 18

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Well, I don't know what to believe now.

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=multi-tree&id=I2285

Seems James didn't die in 1847 and that he married 3 times. Very curious, lots of children born from the other two marriages BEFORE his first spouse died:

Deaths Mar 1863
ACLAND Elizabeth Stoddart Camberwell 1d 349


http://enemyofcorporatedespots.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/my-early-days/

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

It seems the Bishop's Transcripts for Hammersmith 1819 marriage have the names as James ACKLAND and Sarah Stoddard MULLINS. ???

Every other thing I have says her name was Elizabeth.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hello cp,

Well, I don't know what to believe now.

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=multi-tree&id=I2285

Seems James didn't die in 1847 and that he married 3 times. Very curious, lots of children born from the other two marriages BEFORE his first spouse died:

Deaths Mar 1863
ACLAND Elizabeth Stoddart Camberwell 1d 349


http://enemyofcorporatedespots.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/my-early-days/

Regards,

Dave

Hi Dave

Did you want to have a look at this James ACLAND in the census. Spotted him in 1851. ACLAND, James Head Married M 52 1799 Agent
London

cheers
cp

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Yes please.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1851
Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen Milk Street
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: London City
Sub-registration district: London City North
Address: 8, Milk Street, Saint Mary Magdalen Milk Street, London

ACLAND, James Head Married M 52 1799 Agent London
ACLAND, Mary Ann Wife Married F 29 1822 Bromley Kent
ACLAND, Headley Son Unmarried M 10 1841 London
ACLAND, Ellen Daughter Unmarried F 8 1843 London
ACLAND, Kate Tanny Daughter Unmarried F 7 1844 London
ACLAND, James R Son Unmarried M 3 1848 London
ACLAND, Louise C Daughter Unmarried F 0 (3 MOS) 1851 London
DAY, Lucy Visitor Unmarried F 15 1836
WATSON, Charlotte Servant Unmarried F 21 1830 London

cheers
cp

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Thanks.

Now I'm not sure. That census agrees with the tree in that it has the name Headley. But ...


Perhaps we should go back to this:

Deaths Mar 1863
ACLAND Elizabeth Stoddart Camberwell 1d 349

Did she leave a will?

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

Sorry no ACLAND Elizabeth Stoddart in (Index of Wills and Administrations)

cheers
cp

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

OK, thanks for looking.

Well, I guess when you feel like it you can look at the LEWTON / LEAR marriage puzzle in the "An 'odd' ANGEL in Victoria" topic on the Australian board. The mystery aunt turned out to be Mary PEACOCK. !!! Sister of Elizabeth who married brother George LEWTON - hence an aunt of George's daughter. I received the death certificate of that daughter today.

Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[TomC]

Eliza married in 1847. Eliza and daughter went to Australia when spouse Samuel died.

RILEY Eliza A 33 Nimroud 1855 Sydney and/or Newcastle and daughter Fiche 839
RILEY Amelia 5 Nimroud 1855 Sydney and/or Newcastle and mother Fiche 839
arrival: Nimroud Origin: London Destination: 1855 Oct 18

Hello Dave,

I am interested in the subsequent history of Eliza and her daughter, as until now I didn't know they had gone to Australia.

I can also supply you with copious details of Acklands / Aclands. Eliza's mother was in the asylum in Camberwell and it was only after she had died that James married Marianne Day though he wasted no time! The middle 'marriage' never existed, it was purely a co-habitation because his wife was still alive.

I can supply much more but not sure what you want or where to start.

Regards, TomC

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello TomC,

welcome to FHUK.

Thanks for the info. I had to refresh my memory on this part of my tree. At the moment I can't say if I have any queries for you.

I can give you what I've found so far.

Marriage # 1069/1859 HOLLANDS JAMES JOSHUA - RILEY ELIZA ANNIE - GLEBE

The Sydney Morning Herald - Friday 10 June 1859, p. 1
On the 31st ultimo, by license, at St. John's Bishopthorpe, by the Rev. Wiliam Drake, Thomas Joshua Hollands, of Bermondsey, to Eliza Annie Riley, widow of the late Samuel Riley, Esq., of Manchester, and daughter of James Acland, Esq., of London.

Death # 13290/1889 HOLLANDS ELIZA A - JAMES - DIED ORANGE ORANGE

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Thomas Joshua Hollands
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 15 Jun 1827
Father's Name: David Frederick Hollands
Mother's Name: Sarah Hollands
Parish: St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

Death # 8839/1876 HOLLAND THOMAS J - DAVID - SARAH - ORANGE

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Sarah Lake
Spouse Name: David Frederick Holland
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Nov 1812
Parish: St Giles, Camberwell
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark

1841
C.P: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Brixton (Eastern Division)
Surrey
Address: Grange Rd.
David Hollands 50 Occ. Coal merchant.
Sarah Hollands 45
Sarah Hollands 15. b.i.c.
Elizabeth Noakes 20

1851
C.P: Bermondsey
E.P: St Mary Magdalen
Surrey
R.D: Bermondsey
S.R.D: St Mary Magdalen
ED: 2
Address: 5 Grange Road
David F Holland 61 b.Bermonsey Occ. Collecter of Rates & Taxes
Sarah Holland 60 b. St.Catherine, Middx
Lucey Cooper 64 b. Hopton, Sufolk Occ. Needlewoman
Elizabeth Bence 34 b. Bath, Somerset Occ. Gen. Serv.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Births Mar 1850
Riley Annie Amelia London 2 *


Marriage # 3437/1874 PALMER REYNOLD H - RILEY ANNE A P - ORANGE

Died 24 Mar 1921 at 11 King St Randwick, NSW

Death # 2734/1921 PALMER ANNIE A P - SAMUEL - ELIZA A - RANDWICK

Birth # V1852633 161/1852 PALMER REGINALD H - RODBER - ISABELLA

1903 N.S.W Electoral Roll - Dalley - Annandale
PALMER Reginald H., 40 Johnston-street, accountant
PALMER Annie Amelia Paterson, 40 Johnston-street, domestic duties
PALMER Annie Isabel, 40 Johnston-street, domestic duties
PALMER Edith Rodber, 40 Johnston-street, domestic duties
PALMER Muriel Campbell, 40 Johnston-street, domestic duties

1913 N.S.W ELECTORAL ROLL - RANDWICK—RANDWICK POLLING-PLACE
4223 PALMER Annie Amelia Pattison, The Avenue, domestic duties
4233 PALMER Reginald Heber, The Avenue, valuator

1930 N.S.W Electoral Roll – Cook - Martin
PALMER Amelia Ellenore, 43 Botany road, home duties
PALMER Reginald Heber, 43 Botany road, auctioneer

Death # 16762/1931 PALMER REGINALD H - RODBER W - ISABELLA I - REDFERN

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 9 December 1931
MR. R. H. PALMER.
Mr. Reginald Heber Palmer, of Messrs. Palmer and Son, auctioneers, of Randwick and Botany, died at his residence, Waddon, Botany road, Botany, after a short illness following an accident.
Mr. Palmer, who was aged 79 years, was one of the oldest auctioneers in the State, having held a licence for over half a century. He and his son were municipal valuers.
Born at Olepen, West Maitland, he was the eldest son of the late Rodber Wylde Palmer, B.A., a teacher at The King's School, Parramatta, under the late Rev. Dr. Forrest.
Mr. Palmer was a Freemason for more than 50 years; he was also a member of the Royal Historical Society. Mrs. Palmer, two sons, four daughters, and two step-daughters survive.
The remains were interred at Randwick General Cemetery, the Rev. Canon Cakebread officiating at the graveside.

 

[TomC]

Dave,

Thank you. I'll now work on that to see if I can build on it and then get back to you. Meanwhile if you want any previous history of the Acland / Ackland family before Australia just ask.

Regards,
Tom