Elizabeth ARROL

[DaveHam9]

1851
Civil Parish: Abbey Burgh
Town: Paisley
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 1 Neilston Street
Ann ARROL Head 59 Embroiderer Cotton Cloth (muslin Sewer) Paisley, Renfrew
William ARROL son 33 Weaver Harness H L Paisley, Renfrew
Elizabeth ARROL 22 Thread Mill (cotton) Winder Worker Paisley, Renfrew

John POLLOCK & Elizabeth ARROL
Marriage 1868 Paisley, Renfrew

1871
Civil Parish: Paisley Low Church
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 69 Causeyside
Elizabeth Pollock Wife 43 Paisley
John son 16 Bakers son Greenock
Robert son 14 Bakers son Paisley
Ellen dau 14 Bakers dau Paisley

I'd like a look up please for Elizabeth in 1861.

Alexander RODGER & Elizabeth ARROL
Marriage 18 Jun 1852 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew

Also a look up for RODGER family in 1861.


Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

1861
Piece 644 Folio 1 Page 7
Civil Parish: St Mungo
County: Lanarkshire
Registration District: Central
Address: Castle Street, St Mungo
MCGUIRK, John Head Married M 40 Labourer Ireland
MCGUIRK, Jane Wife Married F 39 Housewife Ireland
MCGUIRK, John Son Single M 12 Appe Potter Glasgow Lanarkshire
FORSYTH, Archibald Boarder Single M 23 Carter Glasgow Lanarkshire
HOOD, Mathew Boarder Single M 19 Journeyman Baker Neilston Renfrewshire
REOCH, James Boarder Single M 14 Appt Baker Brig of Weir Renfrewshire
POLLOCK, John Boarder Widower M 30 Journeyman Baker Glasgow Lanarkshire

I'd like a look up please for John in 1851 and 1871.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

Possible..

1851
Civil Parish: Glasgow College
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 135 New Vennel
ED: 10; Page: 23; Line: 5; Roll: CSSCT1851_159

John Pollock 41 [b. Glasgow. Carter]
John Pollock 21 [b. Glasgow. Baker]
Grace Pollock 18
Arthur Pollock 13
Agnes Pollock 11
Mary Pollock 9
[Siblings all b. Glasow]

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Don't ask my why. :biggrin: The system does it even for me as well the other day. I had to moderate one of my own posts.

ARROL = ARROLL = EARL

 

[horse]

1871, not 100% on this one, see 1841 lower down...

RD: Central District
Civil Parish: Glasgow Inner High
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 12 Dobbies Loan
ED: 73; Page: 3; Line: 3; Roll: CSSCT1871_124

John Pollock 42 [b. Glasgow. Bread baker]
Agnes Pollock 31 [b. Glasgow]
John Pollock 7
Agnes Pollock 6
Daniel Pollock 11 Mo
Patrick Mcgennis 18

1841
Civil Parish: Glasgow St Mungo
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Dobbies Loan
ED: 20; Page: 2; Line: 1189; Year: 1841

John Pollock 30 [b. Glasgow. Carter]
Margaret Pollock 25 [b. Glasgow]
John Pollock 10 [b. Glasgow. Drawboy]
Grace Pollock 8
Arthur Pollock 5
Agnes Pollock 2

Geoff

 

[horse]

:2fun:

Yeah, been like it all night, a bit tiresome, but bearing with it at mo :biggrin:

 

[DaveHam9]

The John who married Elizabeth in 1868 should be somewhere in 1871 without spouse.

 

[DaveHam9]

The John who married Elizabeth in 1868 should be somewhere in 1871 without spouse and probably without children. Therefore probably a lodger or boarder.

Oh. Children in 1871 must be from John's first marriage or I've got this all wrong.

 

[DaveHam9]

We have 2x marriages for Elizabeth ARROL but I can find only one birth.

Only one spouse listed on the death of my Elizabeth:

1874 Deaths in the District of Burgh Parishes in the Burgh of Paisley
No. 801 - Elizabeth Pollock Married to John Pollock Baker Journeyman - 1874 November Twentieth 4h. P.M. 69 Causeyside street Low par Paisley - F - 46 years - John Arrol Shawl Weaver (deceased) Ann Arrol M.S. Tytler (deceased) - Gastro Enteritis As Cert. by R. Falconer Surgeon - John Pollock Widower - 1874 November 23 at Paisley Hugh Allison Asst. Registrar

Same address so it is my Elizabeth in 1871 without spouse John.

 

[DaveHam9]

Seems the Elizabeth who married Alexander was born 1822 Helensburgh, Row Parish and they had a son Thomas born 1860.

 

[DaveHam9]

1861
Piece 573 Folio 2 Page 8
Civil Parish: Greenock
County: Renfrewshire
Registration District: Low Church
Address: Canal Street
POLLOCK, Jane Head Mar F 37 Laundress Paisley Renfrewshire
POLLOCK, Andrew son M 15 Draw Boy Silk Paisley Renfrewshire
POLLOCK, Isabella dau F 12 Domestic Servant Paisley Renfrewshire
POLLOCK, Robert son M 9 Tobacco Spiner Greenock Renfrewshire
POLLOCK, John son M 6 Scholar Greenock Renfrewshire
POLLOCK, Ellen dau F 3 Paisley Renfrewshire

I'd like a look up please for that family in 1851.

 

[horse]

1861
Piece 573 Folio 2 Page 8
Civil Parish: Greenock
County: Renfrewshire
Registration District: Low Church
Address: Canal Street
POLLOCK, Jane Head Mar F 37 Laundress Paisley Renfrewshire
POLLOCK, Andrew son M 15 Draw Boy Silk Paisley Renfrewshire
POLLOCK, Isabella dau F 12 Domestic Servant Paisley Renfrewshire
POLLOCK, Robert son M 9 Tobacco Spiner Greenock Renfrewshire
POLLOCK, John son M 6 Scholar Greenock Renfrewshire
POLLOCK, Ellen dau F 3 Paisley Renfrewshire

I'd like a look up please for that family in 1851.

Was she married to a Peter?

 

[DaveHam9]

Don't know Geoff.

I am totally confused. :biggrin:

1861
Piece 644 Folio 1 Page 7
Civil Parish: St Mungo
County: Lanarkshire
Registration District: Central
Address: Castle Street
MCGUIRK, John Head Mar M 40 Labourer Ireland
MCGUIRK, Jane Wife Mar F 39 Housewife Ireland
MCGUIRK, John Son M 12 App Potter Glasgow Lanarkshire
FORSYTH, Archibald Boarder Single M 23 Carter Glasgow Lanarkshire
HOOD, Mathew Boarder Single M 19 Journeyman Baker Neilston Renfrewshire
REOCH, James Boarder M 14 Appt Baker Brig of Weir Renfrewshire
POLLOCK, John Boarder Widower M 30 Journeyman Baker Glasgow Lanarkshire


1881
Piece 5643 Folio 30 Page 22
Civil Parish: Greenock West
County: Renfrewshire
Registration District: West District
Address: 34, Kelly Street
DICKSON, James Head Mar M 37 Carpenter Greenock Renfrewshire
DICKSON, Isabella Wife Mar F 32 Paisley
DICKSON, James son M 9 Scholar Greenock
DICKSON, Jean dau F 7 Scholar Greenock
DICKSON, John son M 5 Scholar Greenock
DICKSON, William son M 3 Greenock
POLLOCK, John Father-In-Law Widower M 56 Baker Glasgow Lanarkshire


This is my Elizabeth and she married in 1868 but are those children the same ones with Jane in 1861? The Father-in-law would be step-father-in-law.

1871
Civil Parish: Paisley Low Church
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 69 Causeyside
Elizabeth Pollock Wife 43 Paisley
John son 16 Bakers son Greenock
Robert son 14 Bakers son Paisley
Ellen dau 14 Bakers dau Paisley

 

[horse]

Why I ask is this in 1851, Causeyside being the common factor, can't see Jane or young Isabella though..

Civil Parish: Paisley Low Church
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 42 Causeyside
ED: 7; Page: 8; Line: 19; Roll: CSSCT1851_124

Andrew Ballock 59 [b. Paisley. HLW]
Isabella Pollock 60 [b. Loom, Argyleshire]
Peter Pollock 27 Son [b. Glasgow. HLW]
Andrew Pollock 5 G'son [b. Paisley. Scholar] Father = Peter.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Yes, I just looked for Isabella in 1851 and didn't find her.

I'd not rely on Causeyside because this is a 2nd John in my tree and they are weavers.

1851
Parish Number: 573
Civil Parish: Paisley Low Church
County: Renfrewshire
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 9
Roll: CSSCT1851_124 Page 2
Address: 34 Causeyside
John Pollock Head 23 Weaver
Sarah Pollock Wife 21 Weaver's Wife Paisley, Renfrewshire
John Pollock 6 Mo

 

[DaveHam9]

No baptisms yet found to help.

Ok, is the boarder, journeyman baker actually a widower?

Are the children with Elizabeth in 1871 the same children with Jane in 1861? Then Jane's spouse should be John and there should be a death for Jane before 1868.

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm off to the library so catch you later Geoff.

 

[horse]

Ok, Dave.. speak later.

 

[DaveHam9]

Elizabeth ARROL can't be found in 1861. If age and status as widower rule that John POLLOCK out in 1861 then the one who married Elizabeth in 1868 can't be found in 1861 either.

 

[horse]

Ok, is the boarder, journeyman baker actually a widower?

This must be the same/possible John Pollock lost in 1861 in the other thread?

Geoff