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Elizabeth HIRST

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Hello cp,

name: Elizabeth Hirst
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Female
age: 27
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: Halifax, Yorkshire
record type: Household
registration district: Halifax
sub-district: 4 Halifax
ecclesiastical parish: St James
civil parish: Halifax
county: Yorkshire (West Riding)
I'd like a look up for the family in 1861 please.

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Hi Dave

Name: Elizabeth Hirst
[Elizabeth Wood]

1861
Civil parish: Halifax
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Halifax
Address: 69, Green Lane, Halifax

WOOD, Thomas Head Married M 62 1799 Labourer At A Dyehouse Halifax Yorkshire
WOOD, Hannah Wife Married F 61 1800 Halifax Yorkshire
HIRST, Samuel Son In Law Married M 25 1836 Whitesmith & Blacksmith Halifax Yorkshire
HIRST, Elizabeth Daughter Married F 27 1834 Housewife Halifax Yorkshire
HIRST, Walter Grandson M 5 1856 Scholar Halifax Yorkshire
HIRST, George H Grandson M 3 1858 Scholar Halifax Yorkshire
HIRST, James F Grandson M 0 (4M) 1861 Halifax Yorkshire

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Hello cp,

Thank you very much.

That's the one I asked for but now I'm not sure why given this marriage:

Marriages Mar 1859
Hirst Elizabeth Halifax 9a 532
Mills William Halifax 9a 532

The mother of the Elizabeth who married in 1859 is a Lucy WOOD.

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Hello cp,

Ok, I know why:

1881
RG11 Piece / Folio 4400 / 58 Page 31
Civil parish: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Halifax
Address: 8 Union St South
HIRST Lucy Head Widow F 82 1799 Annuitant Halifax Yorkshire
HIRST George E Son Single M 56 1825 Woollen Commission Agent Halifax Yorkshire
HIRST Elizabeth Niece Single F 46 1835 Dressmaker Halifax Yorkshire
I was trying to find that one. So the one you found is a different one but that family is probably connected somehow via the WOODs.

EDIT: Thought. :D

What if that's a transcription error in 1881 and Elizabeth is not single but married or a widow? Damn, she is still single in 1891 so it must be a different one.

Ok, I'm trying to find the one in red before 1881. :)

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Hi Dave

1871
Civil parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Bradford
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bradford West End
Cannon Street North Parade, Bradford

HIRST, Elizebeth Unm Lodger F 37 1834 Dressmaker Halifax, Yorkshire

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Hello cp,

Thanks. ;)

That fits but does not help me find her parents. One possibility is Thomas & Ann. I don't think it's Joshua & Sarah.

The spouse of Lucy WOOD is James HIRST and his father is George. I can find a Thomas with father George but not a Joshua.

To be a cousin means her father is a brother of James. If I can be sure I have a brother for James then I hope to find their father George (and spouse) and that's one more generation for the tree.

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Hi Dave

1851
Civil parish: Halifax
Town: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Halifax
Address: 16, Westgate, Halifax

HIRST, Ann Head Widow F 40 1811 Dress Maker Skipton Yorkshire
HIRST, William Son Unmarried M 21 1830 Stuff Presser Halifax Yorkshire
HIRST, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 19 1832 Milliner Halifax Yorkshire

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Hello cp,

Thanks.

That looks good with Ann there.

William HIRST c. 19 Jan 1830 Halifax, Yorkshire
Thomas & Ann

2x Thomas HIRST &

Spouse: Ann RADCLIFFE
Marriage: 8 MAY 1826 Halifax, Yorkshire

Spouse: Ann CHATHAM
Marriage: 23 FEB 1829 Halifax, Yorkshire


I think I have a Thomas son of George born about 1808 in Halifax, so about 8 years younger than James.

I can't see a Thomas HIRST born 1800-1810 in Halifax in 1841. I can't see Ann or William either.

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Hello cp,

I was wondering if you had any luck finding the family in #7 in 1841. I've made no further progress with this one or Selina or Mary Ann. :rolleyes:

name: William Hirst
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 19 Jan 1830
baptism/christening place: Halifax, York, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Thomas Hirst
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Ann Hirst
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: I03312-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 990601
reference number: 45

I wonder if Ann's maiden name is HIRST.

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Hi Dave

1851
Civil parish: Halifax
Town: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Halifax
Address: 16, Westgate, Halifax

HIRST, Ann Head Widow F 40 1811 Dress Maker Skipton Yorkshire
HIRST, William Son Unmarried M 21 1830 Stuff Presser Halifax Yorkshire
HIRST, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 19 1832 Milliner Halifax Yorkshire

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Hi Dave

No luck with 1841, doubt this is Ann, William & Elizabeth.

1841
Civil parish: Halifax
Hundred: Morley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Northowram
Address: Haley Hill Dobby Hall, Halifax, Northowram

HIRST, Willm M 30 1811 Wool Comber Yorkshire
HIRST, Ann F 30 1811 Yorkshire
HIRST, Elizabeth F 10 1831 Yorkshire
HIRST, Mary F 6 1835 Yorkshire
HIRST, Willm M 4 1837 Yorkshire

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Hello cp,

Thanks for looking.

I agree. That looks like a different family. If Ann's spouse is Thomas then I can't find him in 1841 either. If I'm right Thomas was born about 1808, son of George.

name: Elizabeth Hirst
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 26 Aug 1832
baptism/christening place: Halifax, York, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Thomas Hirst
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Ann
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: I05443-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 990602
reference number: p 275

Looks as though I can separate the two families:

Children born to Thomas & Ann RATCLIFFE:

Hannah c. 1827
Joseph c. 1830
Thomas c. 1832

Children born to Thomas & Ann (probably CHATHAM):

William c. 1830
Elizabeth c. 1832

Martha Washington c. 1833


If I'm correct Ann CHATHAM was born in Skipton. I can't prove it.

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Hello cp,

It's worth tracing Martha.

name: Martha Washington Hirst
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 29 Dec 1833
baptism/christening place: Halifax, York, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Thomas Hirst
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Ann
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: I05443-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 990602
reference number: P 111


I can see 3x Martha as possibles in 1841:

Age Reg District Sub-District
9 Hallifax Halifax
7 Halifax Halifax
7 Halifax Northowram

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Hi Dave

Sorry no Thomas or Ann in household in 1841.

Martha Hirst abt 1832 Yorkshire, England Halifax, Yorkshire
Martha Hirst abt 1834 Yorkshire, England Halifax, Yorkshire
Martha Hirst abt 1834 Yorkshire, England Halifax, Yorkshire

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Hello cp,

Thanks for checking.

Well, I'd say we are stuck. The middle name Washington has not been of any help.

I'm reasonably sure it's Thomas and Ann CHATHAM. Children William and Elizabeth fit. Pity Martha W could not prove it.

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