Elizabeth Jane ORCHARD/ARCHARD

[DaveHam9]

Is this the right one?

Births Dec Qtr 1837 ORCHARD Elizabeth Jane Bath 11 2 mmn ROBERTS

3x families in Somerset in 1841 but checking mmn of children born around 1840 gives no match to Roberts.


1851
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGN1-XYV

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Dec Qtr 1858 Stoke D. 5b 551
ANDREWS Peter Neville & ORCHARD Elizabeth Jane

1861
RG9 Piece 1448 Folio 24 Page 5
Civil Parish: Stoke Damerel
Eccl. Parish: St Mary
Town: Devonport
County: Devon
Registration District: Stoke Damerel
Sub-RD: St Aubyn
ED: 2
No of Schedule: 18
Address: 25 Catherine St
William P Andrews Head Widr. 62 Ironmonger Stoke Damerel Devon
Peter N Andrews Son Mar 27 Ironmonger Sheffield Yorkshire
Elizabeth J Andrews Step Dau Mar 22 Bath Somerset
George N Andrews Grand Son 1 Devonport Devon
Adelaide M Watson Serv 17 House Servant Torquay Devon

step daughter = daughter in law

 

[DaveHam9]

??
ARCHARD, ELIZABETH -
GRO Reference: 1837 S Quarter in BATH Volume 11 Page 37

 

[DaveHam9]

It looks to be the right Elizabeth Jane in 1851 but I can't confirm birth reg or 1841 census.


Births Dec Qtr 1868 ANDREWS Henry Edgar - Lincoln 7a 479 mmn ARCHARD

 

[DaveHam9]

Deaths Sep Qtr 1837
Orchard Elizabeth 30 Bath 11 13

Married George 1831 Bath? Not on FS.

How can that fit ? The death is before the birth of Elizabeth Jane ?

 

[DaveHam9]

County Somerset
Place Walcot
Church Walcot - St Swithin
Register type Transcript
Marriage date 27 Aug 1831
Groom forename George Biggs
Groom surname ORCHARD
Groom parish St. Michael Bath Som.
Groom condition Widower
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname ROBERTS
Bride condition Spinster
Transcribed by David Hartley
File line number 2736

 

[DaveHam9]

1841
??
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQJL-PQC

 

[DaveHam9]

Need some baptism records.

County Somerset
Place Bath
Church St Michael
Register type Transcript
Baptism date 10 Apr 1833
Person forename Caroline Anne
Person *** F
Father forename George Biggs
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname ORCHARD
Person abode Milsom St
Father occupation Upholsterer
File line number 8088

County Somerset
Place Bath
Church St Michael
Register type Transcript
Birth date 11 Jun 1834
Baptism date 14 Nov 1834
Person forename Benjamin Guinness
Person *** M
Father forename George Biggs
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname ORCHARD
Person abode Milsom St
Father occupation Upholsterer
File line number 8222


Can't find Frederick or Elizabeth Jane.

 

[DaveHam9]

1851
George has remarried.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBM-QPH

 

[DaveHam9]

Harriet or Hannah ??

Marriages Jun Qtr 1840
LANGHORNE Harriet Spilsby 14 1004
ORCHARD George Biggs Spilsby 14 1004

 

[horse]

1851
George has remarried.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBM-QPH

Took me a while to work out this is the 1841 census, not 1851

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Not sure Geoff.

I may have been prompting for 1851 census and asking which was correct Harriett or Hannah.

First married to Elizabeth. * Correction * He was a widower when he married Elizabeth Roberts.

Dave

 

[horse]

OK, Dave..

Geoff

 

[horse]

It's interesting though, because on the image Mary Langhorn and Mary Praed are listed separately [but possibly in the same house], more interseting is that George married
Harriet or Hannah Langhorn..

Geoff

EDIT: Correction

 

[horse]

So Harriet/Hannah and Mary maybe sisters.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

County Lincolnshire
Place Alford
Church St Wilfrid
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 46
Marriage date 02 Jun 1840
Groom forename George Biggs
Groom surname ORCHARD
Groom age full age
Groom condition widower
Groom occupation gentleman
Groom abode St Ives,Cornwall
Bride forename Harriet
Bride surname LANGHORNE
Bride age full age
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Alford
Groom father forename Isaac
Groom father surname ORCHARD
Groom father occupation gentleman
Bride father forename John .T.
Bride father surname LANGHORNE
Bride father occupation clerk
Witness1 Mild? FLOWGOE?
Witness2 Mary LANGHORNE
Notes licence
Transcribed by Mick Claxton
File line number 46

 

[horse]

Yeah, Harriet looks to be correct, there are trees [some info is quite wrong] but they have Harriet, Hannah must be an error.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

If this is Mary not the same father but can't find Harriett or Hannah.

Lincolnshire
Place Coningsby
Church St Michael
Baptism date 17 Aug 1806
Person forename Mary
Person *** F
Father forename Jas
Mother forename Christiana
Father surname LANGHORN
Notes Father named as "the Revd Jas Langhorn"
Transcribed by Phil Osbourn
File line number 357

 

[horse]

If this is Mary not the same father but can't find Harriett or Hannah.

Both in the same 1841 may suggest there is a family connection..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Elizabeth junior is the connection to my tree.

1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQJL-PQC

Benjamin's middle name is Guiness.

Dave