Elizabeth MOGG

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Elizabeth MOGG Baptised 25 Sep 1831 Holy Trinity Street, Somerset

1841
HO107 Piece 964 Book 22 Folio 30 Page 16
Civil Parish: Street
County: Somerset
Registration District: Wells
Sub-RD: Glastonbury
Address:
John Mogg 35 stone cutter
Harrio(e)t Mogg 30
James Mogg 12
Elizabeth Mogg 9
Harrio(e)t Mogg 6
Alfred Mogg 3
Emma Mogg 1
All born in county

Parents

Deaths Jun 1845
MOGG Harriot Wells 10 358

Deaths Jun 1850
MOGG John Wells 10 379

I'd like a look up please for Elizabeth in 1851.

MOGG Elizabeth 25 'Fitzjames' 1858 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reel 2138, [4/4795]; Reel 2477, [4/4974]

Mogg Elizabeth 25 General House Servant Street, Somerset John & Harriet Dead C.E. Both None

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

County Somerset
Place Street
Church Holy Trinity
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 19 Aug 1804
Forename John
*** M
FatherForename John
MotherForename Amey
FatherSurname MOGG
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 12051



County Somerset
Place Street
Church Holy Trinity
RegisterNumber 70
MarriageDate 26 Feb 1828
GroomForename John
GroomSurname MOGG
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Harriet
BrideSurname MITCHELL
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename John
WitnessOneSurname TROUT
WitnessTwoForename John
WitnessTwoSurname READ
Notes
FileNumber 12050


County Somerset
Place Street
Church Holy Trinity
RegisterNumber 419
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 25 Sep 1831
Forename Elizabeth
*** F
FatherForename John
MotherForename Harriet
FatherSurname MOGG
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation Labourer
Notes
FileNumber 12051

 

[DaveHam9]

Lots of Elizabeth MOGGs in 1851 but it seems not one listed as born Street, Somerset.

Genuki lists lots of places within 5 miles of Street.

We know Elizabeth didn't marry until she was in NSW and that she left England in 1858.

 

[DaveHam9]

If Elizabeth can't be found in 1851 can sister Emma b. 1840 Somerset be found in 1851 and 1861?

MOGG Emma 25 'Trebolgan' 1865 Sydney Reel 2140, [4/4789]; Reel 2483, [4/4990]

Emma married in NSW. The other sister married in England.

 

[DaveHam9]

Where are the MOGG sisters hiding?

 

[horse]

Could be Emma, age a couple of years or so out..

1841 census:
Emma Mogg
Age: 14
Born abt 1837
Orphan Scholar (Orphan)
Born: Street, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Bristol St Andrew
Town: Bristol
County: Gloucestershire
Reg dist: Clifton
Sub-reg district: Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel: New Orphan House Ashley Down
Household schedule number: 1

HO107; Piece: 1953; Folio: 241; Page: 11

There are possibilities for both parents' death in Wells or Bridgewater.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I have the 3 sisters with parents in 1841. The following Wells one is probably my Emma:

Births Mar Q 1839
Mogg Emma Frome 10 399
Births Jun Q 1839
Mogg Emma Bridgwater 10 354
Births Mar Q 1840
Mogg Emma Wells 10 519


Can't find an Emma born/baptised 1836-1841 in FS.

Dave

 

[horse]

Yeah, Wells Reg. Dist. is the only one of the 3 that covers Street. I suppose it depends on how accurate the orphanage were in documenting her details. Though still not necessarily her...

 

[horse]

James and Alfred here, no sign of the girls...

1851 census:
James Mogg
Age: 22
Born abt 1829
Lodger
Born: Street, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Street
County: Somerset
Reg dist: Wells
Sub-reg dist: Glastonbury
ED: 5a

William Whippy 63
Martha Whippy 62
James Mogg 22
Alfred Mogg 13
HO107; Piece: 1935; Folio: 124; Page: 30

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Good chance I think.

Here is the other sister not found in 1851 so far.

Marriages Jun 1858
Mitchell Henry Wells 5c 1031
Mogg Harriett Wells 5c 1031

MITCHELL Harriet 22 Fitzjames 1858 Sydney and/or Newcastle and husband Reel 2138, [4/4795]; Reel 2477, [4/4974]
MITCHELL Henry 23 Fitzjames 1858 Sydney and/or Newcastle and wife Reel 2138, [4/4795]; Reel 2477, [4/4974]

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

County Somerset
Place Street
Church Holy Trinity
RegisterNumber 70
MarriageDate 26 Feb 1828
GroomForename John
GroomSurname MOGG
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Harriet
BrideSurname MITCHELL
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename John
WitnessOneSurname TROUT
WitnessTwoForename John
WitnessTwoSurname READ
Notes
FileNumber 12109

 

[horse]

Good chance I think.

Here is the other sister not found in 1851 so far.

Marriages Jun 1858
Mitchell Henry Wells 5c 1031
Mogg Harriett Wells 5c 1031

MITCHELL Harriet 22 Fitzjames 1858 Sydney and/or Newcastle and husband Reel 2138, [4/4795]; Reel 2477, [4/4974]
MITCHELL Henry 23 Fitzjames 1858 Sydney and/or Newcastle and wife Reel 2138, [4/4795]; Reel 2477, [4/4974]

Dave

Yeah, nothing else close, the lads are not with parents, so it looks as though they died between censuses.

 

[DaveHam9]

I've not looked for them yet. Been mainly working on Elizabeth, the one connected to my tree, and parents.

 

[DaveHam9]

This would fit so wonder where he is in 1851.

Deaths Sep Q 1905
Mogg Alfred 67 Wells 5c 273

 

[horse]

James and Alfred here, no sign of the girls...

1851 census:
James Mogg
Age: 22
Born abt 1829
Lodger
Born: Street, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Street
County: Somerset
Reg dist: Wells
Sub-reg dist: Glastonbury
ED: 5a

William Whippy 63
Martha Whippy 62
James Mogg 22
Alfred Mogg 13
HO107; Piece: 1935; Folio: 124; Page: 30

Geoff

Is this him?

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, thanks Geoff. Missed post #9. I've got a Mr Whippy in my tree now. :biggrin: Don't tell gibbo.

Just found this that fits age in 1841.

County Somerset
Place Street
Church Holy Trinity
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 19 Aug 1804
Forename John
*** M
FatherForename John
MotherForename Amey
FatherSurname MOGG
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 12110

 

[horse]

I'll check the BI for age at death for John

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks.

No sign of a baptism for Harriet.

 

[horse]

1 June 1850 John Mogg 45, Street, Holy Trinity, bur.
27 June 1845 Harriet Mogg 38, Street, Holy Trinity, bur.

 

[horse]

Thanks.

No sign of a baptism for Harriet.

Mother or daughter?