Elizabeth MURTOUGH

[DaveHam9]

Birth 793/1882 MURTOUGH ELIZABETH M - JAMES - ELIZABETH - SYDNEY * just 1882 ?

Looking for any details for James and Elizabeth.

Thanks,

Dave

 

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MURTOUGH JAMES 18037/1924 JAMES -- NORAH --MANLY
MURTOUGH ELIZABETH 3506/1920 JOHN -- MARY -- MANLY

Obit for James [heaps of names mentioned so might help confirm its the right one.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/123252268

Obit for Elizabeth
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/115585663
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[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

The right ones.

Marriage 14650/1912 BYE ALFRED W - MURTOUGH ELIZABETH M - MANLY * 24 Oct

Marriage 1942/B49579 Perdrian William Blair - Bye Helen Murtough

 

[DaveHam9]

... arrived in Sydney when about two years of age ...

Must be this marriage

328/1872 MURTOUGH JAMES - MARTIN ELIZABETH - SYDNEY

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13257748?s

St Marys Cathedral.

I can look that up one day at the Mitchell Library.

 

[DaveHam9]

6 Apr 1872 in BDM

Error in newspaper or ??

That is on film at the State Library when it reopens.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 18 May 1872 p.7
MARRIAGES
MURTOUGH—MARTIN—July 6, 1871, at St. Mary's Cathedral,
by the Rev. P. Mahoney, James Murtough to Elizabeth Martin,
both of Sydney.

 

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Possible arrival

Ship Templar 1844
James MURTOUGH 40 Templar 1844 Sydney and/or Newcastle
Anna MURTOUGH 38 Templar 1844 Sydney and/or Newcastle
Mary MURTOUGH 20 Templar 1844 Sydney and/or Newcastle
Johanna MURTOUGH 18 Templar 1844 Sydney and/or Newcastle
Catherine MURTOUGH 15 Templar 1844 Sydney and/orNewcastle
Margaret MURTOUGH 12 Templar 1844 Sydney and/or Newcastle
Honora MURTOUGH 4 Templar 1844 Sydney and/or Newcastle
James MURTOUGH 1 Templar 1844 Sydney and/or Newcastle

http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/e...4785/Templar_27 Aug 1844/4_478500107.jpg&No=4

 

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Wonder if the information below will help to find Elizabeth's parents.

Taken from Elizabeth's obit it states "The daughter of John Martin, Co. Cork, Ireland, an officer of the Imperial Army, the late Mrs. Murtough came to Australia when quite a young girl.etc"

"Quiet a young girl" could mean anything, young as in she come with her parents or young as in she was young but old enough to come on her own.
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[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Assisted 'Templar' 1844 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reels 2135, 2454

Second reel at State Library when it reopens.

 

[DaveHam9]

http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/e... Elina Bruce_14 Jul 1859/4_479500281.jpg&No=7

17 from Cork but can't read or write

Only one found so far from Cork.

Elizabeth MARTIN 17 Lady Elma Bruce 1859 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reel 2139, [4/4795]; Reel 2479, [4/4979]

The 2nd reel should have names of parents.

 

[DaveHam9]

Manly Cemetery
FIRST NAME: Elizabeth
LAST NAME: Murtough
AGE: 77
BIRTH: -----
DEATH: 1920-02-14
BURIAL: -----
SITES:
CTH-Q-031

FIRST NAME: James
LAST NAME: Murtough
AGE: 82
BIRTH: -----
DEATH: 1924-12-01
BURIAL: -----
SITES:
CTH-Q-030

 

[gibbo]

Case closed for now?

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes thanks gibbo.

Age looks ok on shipping record. If parents are John & Mary we probably have the right one.

 

[DaveHam9]

I now have the shipping image. Parents John & Mary.

Some confusion re the name of the vessel- Lady Elna/Emma/Elina Bruce

Uncle James Hennessy Newtown Road. I won't try to trace him.

 

[DaveHam9]

Assisted 'Templar' 1844 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reels 2135, 2454
MURTOUGH James 40
MURTOUGH Anna 38
Mary 20
Johanna 18
Catherine 15
Margaret 12
Honora 4
James 1

Arrived 27 Aug 1844 - Reel 2454
James 40 Clare Roman Catholic Both Farmer £18 14
Anna 38 Clare Roman Catholic Neither Wife £18 14
James 1 Clare Son £9 7
...

 

[DaveHam9]

Death 18037/1924 MURTOUGH JAMES - JAMES - NORAH - MANLY

trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/123252268
Freeman's Journal (Sydney, NSW) - Thu 11 Dec 1924 p.29
The Late Mr. James Murtough, Manly.

Manly Cemetery
FIRST NAME: James
LAST NAME: Murtough
AGE: 82
DEATH: 1924-12-01
BURIAL: -----
SITES: CTH-Q-030

Norah = Anna or an error ?

I'm missing the deaths of James senior and his wife Anna ??

 

[DaveHam9]

This does not fit for age. ??

MURTOUGH JAMES 219/1855 V1855219 120 AGE 60

I can't find a notice in Trove for this one.

MURTOUGH JAMES 1112/1866 PATRICK - ANN - SYDNEY

 

[DaveHam9]

Death MURTOUGH NORAH 484/1875 JAMES - ELIZABETH - SYDNEY ??


This does not fit for age either. ??

Death MURTOUGH HONORAH 1132/1878 LAWRENCE DIED SYDNEY SYDNEY

Evening News (Sydney, NSW : 1869 - 1931) Mon 17 Jun 1878 Page 2
DEATHS
MURTOUGH.—June 16, at her residence, Kensington-street,
Honora, relict of the late James Murtough, in her 78th
year, deeply regretted by a large circle of friends. May
she rest in peace.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/107943984

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 802/1860 JOYCE THOMAS - MURTOUGH MARGARET - SYDNEY

Might be more than one Margaret.

No Susan on the list of children with parents on arrival.

Marriage 368/1856 V1856368 101 REAY MARTIN - MURTOUGH SUSAN - LD= RC St Mary's Sydney

 

[DaveHam9]

NSW Death REA SUSAN 1594/1903 JAMES - HONORAH - GLEBE

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/237399073

REA.— The Friends of Mr. T. JOYCE are respectfully
invited to attend the Funeral of his late dearly
loved sister-in-law, Mrs. Susan Rea; to leave 34 Franklyn-
street, Glebe, THIS AFTERNOON, at 1.30, for the Necro-
polis.

Now I'm lost. 2x deaths for a James and 2x for Norah/Honorah


Margaret and Susan are sisters but no Susan on the shipping record and there could be 2x Margaret and 2x James junior. Does not mean that the Margaret on shipping record married Thomas Joyce.

 

[Bootzy]

Sydney Mail – Sat 17 Nov 1860
JOYCE-MURTOUGH – November 6th at St Mary’s Cathederal by special licence by the Rev Father Ford, Thomas Joyce of Chippendale second son of Mr Thomas Joyce of Ballinaslloe Ireland to Margaret, fourth daughter of the late Mr James Murtough of Kensington street Sydney.