Elizabeth Sexey Sparkes

[dochines]

Whilst struggling to find an Elizabeth Sparks born in Gloucester about 1840 I was most suprised to find this lady "Elizabeth Sexey Sparkes" aged 21 in the 1861 census (RG9 P1731 f104 P2 ) as transcribed for A.......y.

I am still trying to decide what the original reads and whether or not she is the sexey lady I am looking for !!

dochines

 

[juliejtp]

Birth

1840 - District Clifton, Glos

Elizabeth Sexxe Sparkes

 

[dochines]

Thanks Julie!!

What I really need to do is find this lady, whose birth date fits, marrying a William Smith who was an Asylum attendant in Wotton Gloucester. I really need to find this marriage. Her childrens' birth certs all spell the surname Sparks without an e


William Smith was single in 1861 and first child born by 1866 when the birth cert shows they were married and living in Wotton. He was still the asylum attendant in 1871

So looking for a marriage of Elizabeth Sparks to William Smith between 1861 and 1866. Elizabeth on the censuses after 1871 is shown born Gloucester

Another few pair of eyes looking would be really helpful

many thanks

dochines

 

[oznannie]

Hi
1861 Her father is Simon and mother Ann, as on the baptism in IGI
Saint George Bristol 10 Jan 1841
Elizabeth Sexxe Sparkes
Through the batch number there are 7 more baptisms for her siblings.


Please give us details of 1871 census.
You said Elizabeth born Gloucs after 1871.
We need to know what it says for birthplace in 1871.
Thank you

ozn

 

[juliejtp]

I've not come across a marriage for a Elizabeth Sparkes to William Smith in the county of Gloucester. There is a marriage for a Elizabeth -----A (image looks like Lesca) Sparkes to either George Harding or George Pool district Keynsham. Could she have been married before and widowed as there is a marriage in 1867 for an Elizabeth Pool district Keynsham but guess what only one groom listed and two brides. One of my rellies was also a keeper of the Asylum in that area probaly the same asylum.

 

[dochines]

Hi thank you for taking an interest in this

The 1871 census shows Elizabeth now Smith born Goucester with her children. husband is at work at the local asylum as an attendant.(RG10 P2011 F48 P17)

The 1881 census also just says born Gloucester she is now widowed (RG11 P2538 f81 P28)

Similarly 1891 just says Goucester (RG12 p2016 F13 P19)


In 1861 her husband William is single and still working at the asylum. I was trying to find Elizabeth nee Sparks in 1861 trying to trace back

One problem is that the word "Gloucester" is used both to describe the city as well as the county. I cannot be sure that the Bristol reference in the IGI or the 1861 census with the middle name Sexey is the correct person.

Your thoughts are much appreciated and very welcome

dochines

 

[juliejtp]

I had the same problem with my Player side who come from Gloucester.
Places of birth varied from Wotton, Barnwood, St John and probaly a couple more.

 

[dochines]

Hi Julie,

Being a medic I take an interest in the hospitals and asylums. I actually worked in one my self in the 1960s for a short while! Interesting you have relatives in the same area. They do not even seem to agree on how to spell Wotton ! I was interested to note that the county asylum in Wotton, Horton Rd, had a private wing for wealthy patients 20 bed in 1838 when it opened and you could take your own servants with you.

The other Asylum was built on an estate in Barnwood East of Coney hill between 1880-1884 to take the surplus patients as the Wotton asylum was overcrowded.

All the staff are listed by name if at work in both the 1861 and 1871 census

kind regards and thanks

dochines

 

[juliejtp]

Thanks for the info. I've come across Wotton spelt different ways as well.

 

[oznannie]

Hi
had a few probs find Elzabeth in 1881
birthplace is Gloster and the page number is 28 not 2

oznannie
Not much luck in 1871 either..

 

[leefer]

I had the same problem with my Player side who come from Gloucester.
Places of birth varied from Wotton, Barnwood, St John and probaly a couple more.

Know these areas of Ye Olde Gloster well.
Barnwood was once a couple of miles from Gloucester but is well and truly been gobbled up now and is part of the City itself.
Gloucester Cathedral is a lovely and under rated building and it is strange that it isn't as well known as other such buildings...in fact many people are unaware that Gloucester does have a Cathedral.
In old dialect Gloster was pronounced Glast-er.
The docks in Gloucester have just been redeveloped and though interesting is a very sad and lonely looking place in winter when the visitors dry up.

All the best ...Lee.