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Ella Victoria MENZIES nee FURNER

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1930 NSW Electoral Roll - Riverina - Coolamon
MENZIES Ella Victoria, Reid street, Ariah Park, home duties
MENZIES Andrew, Reid street, Ariah Park, farmer

1936 NSW Electoral Roll - Riverina - Coolamon
MENZIES Ella Victoria, Kooringa, Ariah Park, home duties
MENZIES Andrew, McLaren, Kooringa, Ariah Park, farmer

1943 NSW Electoral Roll - Riverina - Coolamon
MENZIES Ella Victoria, Kooringa, Bectric, home duties
MENZIES Andrew, McLaren, Kooringa, Bectric, farmer

1949 & 1954 NSW Electoral Roll - Hume - Temora
MENZIES Ella Victoria, 25 View street, home duties
MENZIES Andrew McLaren, 25 View street, farmer and grazier

1958 ?

1963 QLD Electoral Roll - Darling Downs - Toowoomba West
MENZIES Andrew Mclaren,
MENZIES Ellen ? Victoria,

Qld. Death 1966/C04746 Menzies Andrew McLaren - Robert Menzies -Zillah Trevaskis

Ok up to 1966 but not sure after that ...


??
1968 VIC Electoral Roll - Kooyong - Deepdene
MENZIES Ella Victoria, 35 Naroo st., -----
MENZIES Mona, 35 Naroo st., E.8, registrar

1972 VIC Electoral Roll - Kooyong - Deepdene
MENZIES Ella Victoria, 35 Naroo St, Balw 3103, -----
MENZIES Mona, 35 Naroo St, Balw 3103, registrar

1977 VIC Electoral Roll - Kooyong - Balwyn North
MENZIES Ella Victoria, 35 Naroo St, Balw 3103, -----
MENZIES Mona, 35 Naroo St, Balw 3103, registrar

1977 (2nd) VIC Electoral Roll - East Yarra - Balwyn North
MENZIES Ella Victoria, 35 Naroo St, Balw 3103, -----
MENZIES Mona, 35 Naroo St, Balw 3103, registrar

??
1980 NSW Electoral Roll - Richmond - Tweed
MENZIES Ella Victoria, 1 Solander Ct. Solander St,


Can the one in Victoria be ruled out somehow?
 
Married in Junee in 1916 and a son born 1921:

Service Record
Name MENZIES, ANDREW McLAREN
Service Australian Army
Service Number N439604
Date of Birth 27 Sep 1921
Place of Birth WAGGA WAGGA, NSW
Date of Enlistment 13 Nov 1941
Locality on Enlistment ARIAH PARK, NSW
Place of Enlistment ARIAH PARK, NSW
Next of Kin MENZIES, ANDREW
Date of Discharge 25 Sep 1945
Rank Private
Posting at Discharge 18 BATTALION VOLUNTEER DEFENCE CORPS PART TIME DUTY
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No

Don't know the names of any other children.

One thing to check: Is there a Mona with them in 1943 or 1949? No.

Ella Victoria Menzies is not in E/R in Victoria before 1968. There is no overlap.

Mona Menzies 1949 Victoria Higgins
Mona Menzies 1954 Victoria Kooyong
Mona Menzies 1963 Victoria Kooyong
 
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Just to get things moving, though Vic. can't be discounted :rolleyes:

The 1968 Vic. E/R looks good, there is a note attached to it however, the image clearly shows it is asterisked.. The note at the bottom of the page says "Not enrolled on this roll as a State elector" - I suppose this would imply a recent visitor. The other Menzies' look interesting.
 
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One thing to check: Is there a Mona with them in 1943 or 1949? No.

Ella Victoria Menzies is not in E/R in Victoria before 1968. There is no overlap.

Mona Menzies 1949 Victoria Higgins
Mona Menzies 1954 Victoria Kooyong
Mona Menzies 1963 Victoria Kooyong

Mona is with them in 1949 and a 'Nurse'. She is also on the Vic. E/R as a new addition, image is a hand-written copy, so she must have gone to Vic. during 1949.

Mona Menzies
Electoral Year: 1949
State: Victoria
District: Higgins
Subdistrict: Malvern
 
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This looks like Andrew Jr

Andrew McLaren Menzies
Electoral Year: 1954
State: New South Wales
District: Riverina
Subdistrict: Ardlethan
[Kooringa, Ariah Park, Farmer. Gwen, Ariah Park]

His parents are in Qld. also by 1958, which answers the query in post #1.

Andrew Mclaren Menzies
Electoral Year: 1958
State: Queensland
District: Maranoa
Subdistrict: Chinchilla
[With Gwen. Rakaia, Warra. Farmer & Grazier]

Geoff
 
This looks like Andrew Jr

Andrew McLaren Menzies
Electoral Year: 1954
State: New South Wales
District: Riverina
Subdistrict: Ardlethan
[Kooringa, Ariah Park, Farmer. Gwen, Ariah Park]

His parents are in Qld. also by 1958, which answers the query in post #1.

Andrew Mclaren Menzies
Electoral Year: 1958
State: Queensland
District: Maranoa
Subdistrict: Chinchilla
[With Gwen. Rakaia, Warra. Farmer & Grazier]

Geoff


Thanks Geoff.

I spent most of the day in the State Library.

Is that senior or junior in 1958?

Not being enrolled in the State means enrolled in the Commonwealth but not satisfied residence requirements for Victoria. That does suggest it is the same Ella. Apart from Andrew junior I have no other info re children. Andrew senior was born in Victoria. The other names in Victoria mean nothing to me. Given that the marriage was 1916 and Andrew Junior was born in 1921 and Mona it seems born after Andrew if she first appears in 1949 then it would be interesting to see if some of the others appeared earlier indicating births between 1916 and 1921.
 
That is Andrew Jr. Do you want a copy of Sr. ?

I can't see Mona's birth anywhere, just the E/R and transfer NSW to Vic.

Geoff
 
That is Andrew Jr. Do you want a copy of Sr. ?

I can't see Mona's birth anywhere, just the E/R and transfer NSW to Vic.

Geoff

Yes thanks.

Mona was probably born after 1921.

Any sign of a tree?


Birth
Andrew McLaren Menzies
Father: Robert Menzies
Mother: Rose Zullah Trevaskis
Birth Place: Kyabram, Victoria
Registration Year: 1888
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 4174

Birth 35856/1889 MENZIES Rose Zillah - Robt - Rose Zillah Grevaskis Wangaratta


This is another FURNER marriage. George is Ella's brother. Z= Zillah

2534/1912 TURNER GEORGE J F W - MENZIES ROSE Z NARRANDERA ** 22 Feb

Hard to sort out which Menzies might be Ella's children and which ones may have been born Menzies and are related somehow.
 
Hi Dave

This is Sr.

Andrew Mclaren Menzies

Electoral Year: 1958
State: Queensland
District: Darling Downs
Subdistrict: Toowoomba West
[With Ellen Victoria. 279 West St. No Occ's given]

Geoff
 
Oh. Well, what to do?

Apart from checking possible birth notices in TROVE and checking deaths with mother = Ella V not much else we can do.
 
No deaths in NSW to 1983 with mother = Ella or Victoria.


Daily Advertiser (Wagga Wagga, NSW : 1911 - 1954) - Monday 22 March 1937 p.2
WAGGA HIGH SCHOOL SUCCESSES !
Now that the University and the
Teachers' Training College are open, ...
... Mona Menzies, ...



Riverine Herald (Echuca, Vic. : Moama, NSW : 1869 - 1954) - Tuesday 28 July 1953 p.3
The registrar of the Nurses'
Board (Miss Mona Menzies)
has informed the Swan, Hill
District Hospital board of ...


The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - Saturday 21 January 1956 p.40
NURSES ACTS - VICTORIA - ELECTION OF MEMBERS OF THE NURSES BOARD.
...
MONA MENZIES,
Registrar, Nurses Board.
 
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Riverine Herald (Echuca, Vic. : Moama, NSW : 1869 - 1954) - Tuesday 28 July 1953 p.3
The registrar of the Nurses'
Board (Miss Mona Menzies)
has informed the Swan, Hill
District Hospital board of ...

Registrar fits with the E/R's, but still no ref. to family since 1949 :rolleyes:
 
She's still in Vic. in 1980..

Mona Menzies
Electoral Year: 1980
State: Victoria
District: Kooyong
Subdistrict: Balwyn North
[35 Naroo St. Registrar]

Geoff
 
The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) - Monday 9 June 1986 p.10
Queen's Birthday Honours
Members of the Order of Australia
AM
Miss Mona MENZIES, Nunawading, Vic: for service to nursing.
 
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