Ellen GATES nee DOUST

[DaveHam9]

Assisted 'Admiral Lyons' 1857 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reels 2138, 2475
GATES William 32 and family
GATES Ellen 32
Thomas W 11
George 10
Stephanie 9
Mary E 6
Charles 2

Arrived 15 Sep 1857 - Reel 2475
GATES William 32 Boot and Shoemaker Goudhurst Kent George & Stephanie both dead C.E. Both None Good None £10 R.R. per Joseph Doust
Ellen 32 Wife Goudhurst Kent Stephen & Eleanor Mother dead Father at Goudhurst C.E. Both Brother Joseph Doust Camden Good None £10 R.R. per Joseph Doust
Thomas 12 Goudhurst Kent on board C.E. Both £5 R.R. per Joseph Doust
George 10 Goudhurst Kent on board C.E. Read £5 R.R. per Joseph Doust
Stephanie 8 Goudhurst Kent on board C.E. Read £5 R.R. per Joseph Doust
...

NSW Death 2537/1857 GATES WILLIAM - GEORGE - STEPHENAH - CAMDEN * 21 Dec 1857

NSW Marriage 1548/1858 WADE THOMAS - GATES ELLEN - CAMDEN * 8 Jun

NSW Marriage 1475/1860 PAIN HENRY - GATES ELLEN - CAMPBELLTOWN * 10 Mar

NSW Death 2898/1871 PAIN ELLEN - STEPHEN - ELEANOR - BERRIMA * 5 Jan

Does Ellen remarry twice, the second time not as Wade or is the Ellen who married Thomas a different one?

 

[DaveHam9]

6x deaths in NSW index for an Ellen Wade.

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Thomas William Gates, Free Settler "Admiral Lyon" 1857
Birthdate: July 29, 1845
Birthplace: Kent, UK
Death: September 29, 1927 (82)
Immediate Family:
Son of William Gates, Free Settler "Admiral Lyon" 1857 and Ellen Gates - Wade - Pain, Free Settler "Admiral Lyon" 1857

That tree seems to indicate Ellen married Wade and Pain. ??

No death in NSW index 1858 - 1860 for a Thomas Wade.

 

[DaveHam9]

Is this the right death for Henry?

NSW Death PAIN HENRY 12024/1905 CHARLES - MARY A - BOWRAL

 

[gibbo]

Empire (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1875)
Fri 11 Jun 1858
MARRIAGES.
June the 8th, 1858, at Camden, by the Rev. J. Langford, Ellen Gates, widow to Thomas Wade, widower, both of Camden.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/60426736
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[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

That may be on film at SLNSW but not sure if getting the image will help.

So far I can't find a notice in Trove for the 1860 marriage. If it happens to be CofE St Peter Campbelltown then it should be on film at SLNSW. If it's not CofE then will be difficult to find on film.

 

[DaveHam9]

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NSW Death WADE ELLEN 6263/1896 UNKNOWN UNKNOWN - GOULBURN * 4 Jun

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/101106256

Married to late Joseph Wade.

NSW Marriage 1414/1856 WADE JOSEPH - ROBBY ELLEN - GOULBURN

 

[gibbo]

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NSW Death WADE ELLEN 6263/1896 UNKNOWN UNKNOWN - GOULBURN * 4 Jun

Married to a Joseph wade

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/263914332

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Yeah.

One more death for an Ellen Wade to check.

NSW Death WADE ELLEN 15471/1902 ARCHIBALD - MARY J - PETERSHAM

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/14510814

Ellen Margaret. RC Rookwood. Ruled out.

 

[DaveHam9]

Seems to be no other death for the Ellen who married Thomas Wade and no death for him 1858 - 1860. Divorce index does not start until 1873.

 

[Bootzy]

Her brother
Joseph James Doust b 2 April 1820 Goudhurst Kent to Stephen Doust (1797-1880) & Eleanor Sands (1801-1856) – (they married 8 Feb 1819 Cranbrook Kent. Stephen remarried 1860 to Sophia Busain (1830-1913))

Joseph married 1845 Cobbitty to Louisa Nash (1825-1897)
his death/Orbit – March 1907
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/140481945?searchTerm=joseph doust
Louisa’s death Dec 1897
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/133281759?searchTerm=joseph doust

Ellen b 3 March 1825 Goudhurst to above parents –
1st married 27 May 1844 Brenchley Kent to William Gates (1825-1857)
2nd marriage 1860 Campbelltown to Henry Pain (1834-1905)
She died 5 Jan 1871 Bowral

SMH – Mon 9 Jan 1871
On the 5th instant at her residence, Bowrall, Ellen the beloved wife of Henry Pain, tanner, aged 45 years after a short but painful illness. (English papers please copy) – death reg 2898 – correct parents

Henry Pain marriage 1860 Campbelltown NSW to Ellen Gates – reg 1475

death of another brother who Joseph paid deposit for emigration
David Doust – May 1909 age 75
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/136640867?searchTerm=david doust

David Doust, father of Alderman Horace Doust, came from England in 1857, and his voyage to Australia was full of trials and adventures, suffering unenviable experiences. Twice was he shipwrecked, and his third ship arrived at Port Jackson in the midst of a storm that is recorded in the annals of Australia. On his first attempt the ship 'Boanergas' was wrecked on sailing from England; the second ship, 'Vocales,' met a similar fate. Still he embarked on a third sailing ship, and after over six months on the wide seas entered Sydney Heads the day after the wreck of the 'Dunbar,' at the Gap on South Head, on the 21st August, 1857. David Doust worked on the construction of the first high level wooden bridge over the Nepean River at Camden, which was completed and opened for traffic in 1861. Mr. Doust then went into the grocery and general merchant trade, and in 1863 took over Lustard's store, which in those days was the leading general store of the town. A reproduction of this old store is given below. Business prospered under David Doust's management, and in 1884 extensive building operations were entered into, doubling the size of the shop.

He married Ann Tolhurst 14 Nov 1853 Gouldhurst Kent – she died 21 Aug 1901 age 70 – Trove

2nd marriage – 1902 NSW to Susan S Bethel
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15060003?searchTerm=susan doust

Susan’s death – Dec 1943
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/106131954?searchTerm=susan doust

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

Where do we get a second Ellen Gates to marry Thomas Wade? The death for that Ellen?

 

[DaveHam9]

Still trying to sort this Ellen out.

NSW Marriage 1548/1858 WADE THOMAS - GATES ELLEN - CAMDEN * 8 Jun