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Ellen GATES

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Assisted 'Admiral Lyons' 1857 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reels 2138, 2475
GATES William 32 and family
GATES Ellen 32
Thomas W 11
George 10
Stephanie 9
Mary E 6
Charles 2

Arrived 15 Sep 1857 - Reel 2475
William 32 Boot and Shoemaker Goudhurst Kent George & Stephanie both dead C.E. Both None Good None Β£10 R.R. per Joseph Doust
Ellen 32 Wife Goudhurst Kent Stephen & Eleanor Mother dead Father at Goudhurst C.E. Both Brother Joseph Doust Camden Good None Β£10 R.R. per Joseph Doust
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NSW Death 2537/1857 GATES WILLIAM - GEORGE - STEPHENAH - CAMDEN * 21 Dec 1857

NSW Marriage 1548/1858 WADE THOMAS - GATES ELLEN - CAMDEN

Empire (Sydney, NSW) - Fri 11 Jun 1858 p.2
MARRIAGES
June the 8th, 1858, at Camden, by the Rev. J. Langford, Ellen Gates, widow to Thomas Wade, widower, both of Camden.

NSW Marriage 1475/1860 PAIN HENRY - GATES ELLEN - CAMPBELLTOWN

NSW Death 2898/1871 PAIN ELLEN - STEPHEN - ELEANOR - BERRIMA

The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 7 Jan 1871 p.1
DEATHS
On the 5th instant, at her residence, Bowrall, ELLEN, the beloved wife of HENRY PAIN, tanner, aged 45 years, after a short but painful illness. (English papers, please copy.)

The 1871 death is that of Ellen aged 32 on the shipping record. She therefore remarried in 1860.

So, who is the Ellen Gates (a widow) who married Thomas Wade in 1858 ?
 

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Ellen Doust b 3 March 1825, baptised 22 June 1828 Gouldhurst Kent – Stephen Doust (1797-1880) & Eleanor Sands (1801-1856)

1st married 27 May 1844 Brenchley Kent to William Gates – FHL 992457 – he died 1857
2nd marriage 8 June 1858 Camden NSW Thomas Wade (?- Feb 1859)
3rd marriage 10 March 1860 Campbelltown to Henry Pain (1834-1905) – had 3 children

Ellen died 5 Jan 1871 Berrima – reg2898 – on Findagrave (birth date is baptism date) buried Bong Bong Church Cemetery Bowral

NSW Deposit Journal – 26 June 1856 for William & Ellen & 5 children as will as Doust family paid by Joseph Doust brother to Ellen - b4 April 1820 Gouldhurst Kent – died 24 March 1907 Camden - reg 856 - correct parents
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/14858453?searchTerm=joseph doust
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/140481945?searchTerm=joseph doust
 

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Thanks Val.

How can Ellen marry Henry Pain as Gates if she married Thomas Wade?

Where is the death for Thomas Wade ?
 
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Thomas Wade to Ellen Gates – Camden – 1548/1858
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/60426736?searchTerm=thomas wade

there is a few paper articles for a Thomas Wade being drunk & disorderly, spent time in jail, so maybe Ellen didn’t feel he was suitable for her… and showed him the door….divorce? - had it annulled? ...

no death for him in 1859 as per Tree – NSW 1866 age 50 at Armidale suits him.. reg 2754
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/60426736?searchTerm=thomas wade

Henry Pain to Ellen Gates – Campbelltown – 1475/1860
 

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