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Ellen MANN

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Qld. Death 11 Jul 1938/C03069 Wake Ellen - John Mann - Susan Crough

No age at death found so far.

First marriage.

Qld. Marriage 27 May 1881/C0768 Albion Alexander - Mann Ellen
 
Qld. Marriage
John Mann
Event date: 29/08/1856
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1859/C/321
Spouse: Susan Crouch
 
Lots of deaths in Qld. for a John Mann.

Qld. Death
Susan Mann
Event date: 23/05/1916
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1916/C/2854
Mother: Elizabeth Harvey
Father/parent: John Crouch

I can't find a notice in Trove.
 
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"john Mann" AND Manandilla only finds the one notice.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/97454715

NSW Bap MANN JOHN 223/1838 V1838223 44A JOHN - HELEN - CK= CofE Port Macquarie, St Thomas (Co. Ayr)

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Qld. Death
John Mann
Event date: 26/03/1912
Event type: Death registration
Date of birth: 1874
Registration details: 1912/C/3217
Mother: Helen Lyons
Father/parent: John Mann
 
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Elizabeth Harvey
Christening Date 15 Jun 1817
Christening Place Sedlescomb, Sussex, England
Father's Name Hesekiah Harvey
Mother's Name Elizabeth Harvey
Microfilm Number 1894291
Batch I044720
 
John Crouch born 27 Oct 1812 Ewhurst ?

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Marriages Sep Qtr 1838
CROUCH John Rye 7 477
HARVEY Elizabeth Rye 7 477

Birth of Susan Crouch ?
 
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NSW Birth MANN ELLEN 13142/1860 JOHN - SUSAN - WELLINGROVE


Very unusual entry.

NSW Marriage 1329/1856 MANN John - CROUCH Susan (her X mark) - Drayton

It's in the NSW index as well and Drayton is in Qld.
 
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NSW Baptism
CROUCH SUSANNA 1886/1841 V18411886 25A JOHN - ELIZABETH - CT
CROUCH SUSANNA 1745/1841 V18411745 26A JOHN - ELIZABETH - CT= CofE Black Creek; Bulwarra; Cloden; East Maitland; Hinton; Hunter District; Maitland; Morpeth; West Maitland
 
NSW Birth MANN ELLEN 13142/1860 JOHN - SUSAN - WELLINGROVE


Very unusual entry.

NSW Marriage 1329/1856 MANN John - CROUCH Susan (her X mark) - Drayton

It's in the NSW index as well and Drayton is in Qld.

Yeah i have one like that as well. Married in 1856 in Drayton to :LOL: Once QLD become a state in 1859 those bmd's that were registered in NSW, but were now in QLD, were transcribed over. I bought both cert and the NSW one was in handwriting where the QLD one was typed out. Glad i got both to, as the handwritten one has a witness as Ward yet the QLD transcribed one had her name as Wold :rolleyes:

Your lot might have known my lot :ROFLMAO:
 
NSW
1330/1856
GIBSON
GEORGE
DOWNS
ELIZA
DRAYTON

QLD
Marriage registration: George Gibson
Marriage date:
30/08/1856
Spouse's name: Eliza Downs
Registration details: 1859/C/322

Birth of first kid
NSW
GIBSON WILLIAM H
6286/1857
GEORGE
ELIZA
DRAYTON

QLD
Birth registration:
William Henry Gibson
Birth date:
18/09/1857
Mother's name: Eliza Downs
Father/parent's name: George Gibson
Registration details: 1857/C/320
 
Baptism for John Crouch ?

Elizabeth c. 15 Jun 1817 Sedlescomb, Sussex, England
Hesekiah Harvey & Elizabeth
Batch I044720 Microfilm 1894291

Page 14
BAPTISMS solemnized in the Parish of Sedlescomb in the County of Sussex in the Year 1817
No. 109 When Baptised: June 15 Elizabeth dr. of Hesekiah & Elizabeth Harvey Abode: Sedlescomb Quality or Profession: Labourer By whom the Ceremony was performed: John Pratt

Marriages Sep Qtr 1838 Rye 7 477
CROUCH John & HARVEY Elizabeth

Arrival ?

NSW Bap V18411745 26A/1841 CROUCH SUSANNA - JOHN - ELIZABETH - CT= CofE Black Creek; Bulwarra; Cloden; East Maitland; Hinton; Hunter District; Maitland; Morpeth; West Maitland
 
NSW Bap MANN JOHN 223/1838 V1838223 44A JOHN - HELEN - CK= CofE Port Macquarie, St Thomas (Co. Ayr)

Page 5
Baptisms solemnized in the Parish of St. Thomas in the County of Macquarie in the Year 1840
No. 62 When Baptised: 4 Septemr. When Born: 22 July 1840 Thomas William - John & Helen Mann Abode: Port Macquarie Quality or Profession: Blacksmith By whom the Ceremony was performed: John Cross
No. 63 When Baptised: 4 Septemr. When Born: 22 April 1838 John - John & Helen Mann Abode: Port Macquarie Quality or Profession: Blacksmith By whom the Ceremony was performed: John Cross


Parents match but age in notice does not fit.

Qld. Death 26 Mar 1912/C03217 Mann John - John - Helen Lyons

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/53252946
Morning Bulletin (Rockhampton, Qld.) - Wed 27 Mar 1912 p.1
FUNERAL NOTICES
THE Friends of Mrs. J. MANN and FAMILY are respectfully invited to attend the Funeral of their dearly beloved HUSBAND and FATHER, respectively (John Mann), aged thirty-eight years, ...
 
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NSW Marriage
31/1834 V183431 44B MANN JOHN S - GOODRIDGE ELEANOR - CK= CofE Port Macquarie, St Thomas (Co. Ayr)

1324/1834 V18341324 18 MANN JOHN S - GOODRIDGE ELEANOR - CK


An error somewhere.

Qld. Death
John Mann
Event date: 11/02/1913
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1913/C/4134
Mother: Ellen Elizabeth Gutteridge
Father/parent: John Simon Mann

I can't find a notice in Trove.
 
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Qld. Death
Thomas William Mann
Event date: 15/07/1891
Event type: Death registration
Date of birth: 1839
Registration details: 1891/C/2301
Mother: -
Father/parent: John Mann


I can't find a death for Ellen.

Qld. Death
John Simon Mann
Event date: 23/06/1892
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1892/C/2188
Mother: Mary Flannigan
Father/parent: Thomas William Mann

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/76738104

The Northern Miner (Charters Towers, Qld. : 1874 - 1954) Mon 27 Jun 1892 Page 2
DEATH.
MANN.—On the 23rd June, 1892, at his
residence, King-street, after a short but
painful illness, John Simon Mann, of
this town, leaving a wife and two chil-
dren to mourn their loss. May he rest
in peace. (Queenslander please copy.)
 
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Qld. Death
Thomas William Mann
Event date: 15/07/1891
Event type: Death registration
Date of birth: 1839
Registration details: 1891/C/2301
Mother: -
Father/parent: John Mann


I can't find a death for Ellen.

Qld. Death
John Simon Mann
Event date: 23/06/1892
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1892/C/2188
Mother: Mary Flannigan
Father/parent: Thomas William Mann

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/76738104

The Northern Miner (Charters Towers, Qld. : 1874 - 1954) Mon 27 Jun 1892 Page 2
DEATH.
MANN.—On the 23rd June, 1892, at his
residence, King-street, after a short but
painful illness, John Simon Mann, of
this town, leaving a wife and two chil-
dren to mourn their loss. May he rest
in peace. (Queenslander please copy.)


Hi
I am just new to this forum, John Simon Mann and his wife Ellen/Eleanor Goodridge/Goodrich were my 3x Great Grandparents. I was born and raised in Charleville Qld. I ntoice in this post you are looking for a death for Ellen. Do you mean the convict Ellen? If so she remarried after the death of John Simon Mann. He died January 1863 at Frasers Creek NSW. Ellen/Eleanor married John Cook on 22 June 1863 at Bigges Camp Qld. John Cook was a publican and built the Empire Hotel in Roma Qld. Ellen died 26/03/1888 at Mt Ambundance Station Roma Qld. I have a copy of the death certificate.
I descend from John Mann and Susan Crouch's daughter Rose who was born in Qld in 1877 and died in Charleville 21 June 1948. I have just thought you may have been looking for the death of Ellen Wake formerly Albion nee Mann. She died 11 July 1938 at Ipswich Qld
 
This one was in my tree.

Qld. Death 11 Jul 1938/C03069 Wake Ellen - John Mann - Susan Crough

I was thrown by this death.

Death 23 Jun 1892/C02188 Mann John Simon - Thomas William - Mary Flannigan

trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/76738104
The Northern Miner (Charters Towers, Qld.) - Mon 27 Jun 1892 p.2
DEATH
MANN.-On the 23rd June, 1892, at his residence, King-street, after a short but painful illness, John Simon Mann, of this town, leaving a wife and two children to mourn their loss. May he rest in peace. (Queenslander please copy.)

This marriage was not in my tree but is now.

Qld. Marriage 7 Oct 1861/C0042 Mann Thomas William - Flanagan Mary Ann


But where is the birth of a John Simon Mann with parents Thomas William & Mary Flannigan
 
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This one was in my tree.

Qld. Death 11 Jul 1938/C03069 Wake Ellen - John Mann - Susan Crough

I was thrown by this death.

Death 23 Jun 1892/C02188 Mann John Simon - Thomas William - Mary Flannigan

trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/76738104
The Northern Miner (Charters Towers, Qld.) - Mon 27 Jun 1892 p.2
DEATH
MANN.-On the 23rd June, 1892, at his residence, King-street, after a short but painful illness, John Simon Mann, of this town, leaving a wife and two children to mourn their loss. May he rest in peace. (Queenslander please copy.)

This marriage was not in my tree but is now.

Qld. Marriage 7 Oct 1861/C0042 Mann Thomas William - Flanagan Mary Ann


But where is the birth of a John Simon Mann with parents Thomas William & Mary Flannigan

Ellen M
 
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