Ellen Nora Le Dan - 1843

[brentor boy]

Ellen Nora Mounter/Pellmounter was born in Lamerton, Devon in 1843. She married Henry Frederic Le Dan, of Jersey, in Plymouth in 1866.

Henry, Royal Navy, was at sea/abroad in 1871 and Ellen was with her mother and siblings in Plymouth.

By 1881 Henry was co-habitating with Anne Emily Allen, from Cornwall, in Tormoham(Torquay). Where was Ellen? It is possible she may have been with a daughter, Alice, born Plymouth 1877.

Ellen died in 1890. Henry married Anne Emily in 1890.

 

[Ellie7]

So he married months after his wifes death, so who told him? I would look for a Poor Relief Record in Plymouth .Either from Ellen herself, her daughter ,or Henry F. LeDan
,or he could have done it in Torquay.

Ellie

Edit--Catalogues listing most of the Devon Heritage Centre parish records, including many Overseers of the Poor records, can be searched on-line through The National Archives Discovery Catalogue (they were formerly on the Access to Archives website, but that has now been incorporated into the updated Discovery Catalogue - See more at: http://www.devon.gov.uk/index/counc...ief/poor_law_records.htm#sthash.VwywkUS2.dpuf

 

[horse]

Not sure if this is helpful..

Thomas Henry Ledan
Q4 1872
RD: Plymouth
Devon
Vol: 5b
Page: 286

UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929
Thos Hy Ledan
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Plymouth
Death Date: 25 Nov 1903
Death Place: Edinburgh
Rank: Gunner
Regiment: Royal Garrison Artillery
Regimental Number: 85121
[Image has father = Henry.. Henry F]

 

[horse]

Thomas in 1891..

Ref: ED: Military Barracks; Piece: 1737; Folio: 121; Page: 13

Geoff

 

[brentor boy]

Thanks, Geoff. I suspected that Thomas might be a son and hoped 1881 would prove it.

 

[brentor boy]

Rejoice with me, for I have found that that was lost.

Maria L.E Daw. Piece 2198, folio 105, page 65. Plymouth St Andrew. Living with Thomas and Alice. Also her re-married mother. ( Ann Mounter/William Stewart Dec Q 1874 Plymouth). In addition to older son, William.

Parts of Brentor were in Lamerton parish. Cannot explain difference in first name and age, and "widow" a deviation from the truth, but perhaps a reasonable description of her effective status.

 

[horse]

Maria L.E Daw. Piece 2198, folio 105, page 65. Plymouth St Andrew. Living with Thomas and Alice. Also her re-married mother. ( Ann Mounter/William Stewart Dec Q 1874 Plymouth). In addition to older son, William.

The image looks like Le Dan/Le Daw, I think it's a transcription error, though as you say, it is almost certainly them, nice find.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Le Dan

Look at the 'm' on William and the 'n' on Son.

 

[horse]

Le Dan

Look at the 'm' on William and the 'n' on Son.

Yep, Definitely 'Le Dan'. Thanks, Dave.

Geoff

 

[brentor boy]

Thanks, Geoff and Dave, for that final piece of evidence.

Geoff, it was you who provided the key when you posted details of Thomas. For reasons that are now obvious, when I looked for a household with an Alice/Ellen combination, I drew a blank but as soon as I tried Alice/ Thomas - BINGO!

The son William was with the family in 1871 as William Mounter, and I believe he was Ellen's. illegitimate child from before her marriage to Henry.

 

[horse]

Yeah, it's always nice when those final suspicions are put to rest. It took me a while to learn the value of teamwork, we all think we are good at this 'game' because we have spent years at it. But how valuable is another opinion?

Geoff