Ellen O'NEIL/O'NEILL

[DaveHam9]

Birth 8390/1864 O'NEIL ELLEN - OWEN - CATHERINE - GOULBURN ** 3 Apr 1864

Marriage 4044/1886 SPACKMAN JOHN J - O'NEILL ELLEN - CROOKWELL ** 25 May 1886

The Sydney Morning Herald - Friday 13 June 1930 p.8
GENERAL-COUNTRY.
Goulburn District Hospital -Ellen Spackman

Death 4672/1933 SPACKMAN ELLEN 67 YRS MTL HSP KENMORE GOULBURN ** 24 Feb 1933

Looking for info on Ellen's parents - marriage, deaths, arrival, ...

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Two days after the wedding:

Goulburn Herald (NSW : 1881 - 1907) - Thursday 27 May 1886 p.3
£5 REWARD.
LOST, STOLEN, OR STRAYED
FROM My Farm, GRABBEN GULLEN, on Tuesday 11th instant, YELLOW BAY DRAUGHT MARE, star and snip, branded CD near shoulder, pulled tail, 6 year old. £1 reward if strayed, £5 on conviction if stolen.
JOHN SPACKMAN,
Near Roman Catholic Church, Grabben Gullen.

 

[horse]

Found a tree, but may or may not be good, large no. of offspring etc...

There is a possible sibling of Ellen with some form..

Hiney Oneiel
[Owen Oneil]
Birth Year: abt 1860
Birth Place: Near Gailburn, New South Wales
Age: 13
Vessel Arrived In: N C
Date of Admission/Photo: 1873-1874
Gaol: Goulburn
Gaol Location: Goulburn, New South Wales, Australia
Record Type: Entrance and Description Book
[Image says Alias Owen O'Neil. RC]

Owen Neill
Birth Date: 1860
Father: Owen Neill
Mother: Catherine
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1860
Registration Place: Goulburn, New South Wales
Registration Number: 7032

Owen Oneill
Death Date: 1940
Death Place: New South Wales
Father: Owen
Mother: Catherine
Registration Year: 1940
Registration Place: Goulburn, New South Wales
Registration Number: 5608

Geoff

 

[horse]

One or both parents may have been in the US as a no. offspring appear to have been b. there.. Owen looks to be the first child b. in Aus.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Birth Year: abt 1860
Birth Place: Near Gailburn, New South Wales
Age: 13
Vessel Arrived In: N C

I think that should be B C = born colony

 

[horse]

There are a no. of refs to this..

1900 United States Federal Census
Home in 1900: Blakely, Scott, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1845
[1865]
Relation to Head of House: Head
Married
Spouse: Catherine O Neill
Marriage Year: 1850
Years Married: 50
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland

Owen O Neill 84
Catherine O Neill 80
Patrick O Neill 45
Martha O Neill 42
Rose O Neill 41
Albert Billevaux 30

Geoff

 

[horse]

This is interesting..

New South Wales, Australia, Gaol Description and Entrance Books, 1818-1930
Owen O'Neil
Birth Year: abt 1816
Birth Place: Cork
Age: 61
Arrival Year: 1881
Arrival Country: Australia
Vessel Arrived In: Northern Light
Date of Admission/Photo: 1877-1882
Gaol: Goulburn
Gaol Location: Goulburn, New South Wales, Australia
Record Type: Description Book

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Can't find that vessel.

One by that name in Canada.

 

[horse]

Can't find that vessel.

I haven't yet

 

[horse]

Sending the mar. cert. from the tree...

 

[DaveHam9]

Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW : 1881 - 1940) - Tuesday 15 December 1896 p.2
Tuesday, 15th December
Before the Police-Magistrate
SUPPOSED UNSOUND MIND.
Ellen Spackman was charged on suspicion with being of unsound mind.
Constable Gandy deposed that at 10 o'clock that morning he arrested the accused in front of the police station, and charged her with being of unsound mind; he said to her " Where do you feel ill ?" and she said, " At times my head is bad-I am afraid it is some punishment on me for doing crocheting work of a Sunday, but that was a long time ago;" from her general conversation witness thought she required medical treatment.
John Spackman, farmer and labourer, Gurrundah, deposed that the accused was his wife; she was about 33 years of age and had four children, three at home; the last two months she had been bad off and on crying, and going about the bush ; she did not close her eyes on Friday or Saturday night; she said she reckoned she would have to make away with the youngest child because it had a Protestant name; she was in the habit of taking fits; about three or four years ago she was wrong in her head and was in the Goulburn Hospital.
Witness expressed his willingness to contribute something towards his wife's support.
Dr. McKillop deposed that from accused's conversation he believed her mind to be unsound; he recommended that she be remanded for a week for observation.
Remanded till the 21st.

 

[horse]

Sad about Ellen

Pity there wasn't a bit about the family, though Gurrundah may be useful..

 

[horse]

The tree has Ellen b. Gurrundah Creek..

 

[DaveHam9]

1900 New South Wales PO Directory
Spackman John, dairy farmer GURRUNDAH


1936 NSW Electoral Roll - Eden Monaro - Pomeroy
SPACKMAN John, Gurrundah, farmer

It varies over the years between the two places.

1943 NSW Electoral Roll - Macquarie - Capertee
SPACKMAN John, Grabben Gullen, retired

 

[horse]

1936 NSW Electoral Roll - Eden Monaro - Pomeroy
SPACKMAN John, Gurrundah, farmer

Oh! Where's Pomeroy?

 

[horse]

Well, there is this.. There are 2x Owen ONeil, one in Pomeroy and one in Bungonia..

New South Wales, Australia Historical Electoral Rolls, 1842-1864
Owen O'neil
Year Range: 1863-1864
District: Central Cumberland

Geoff

 

[horse]

Well, there is this.. There are 2x Owen ONeil, one in Pomeroy and one in Bungonia..

New South Wales, Australia Historical Electoral Rolls, 1842-1864
Owen O'neil
Year Range: 1863-1864
District: Central Cumberland

Geoff

So it is probably Pomeroy, because this one in Bungonia in 1841..

1841 New South Wales, Australia, Census
Owen O'Neil
State: New South Wales
Country: Australia

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Also near Goulburn.

Parish map of Pomeroy, County of Argyle, Land Districts of Goulburn & Gunning

Bungonia is not far away.

 

[horse]

Thanks, Dave... 1841 must be too early if other info is correct.

 

[DaveHam9]

A birth in NSW abt 1860 of Owen junior but arrival in 1881 of Owen senior?


I'll catch you tomorrow Geoff.

Dave