Ellen Wilson (nee Owens)

[Robobie]

I'm trying to find information on Ellen Owens (born 1903-1904) who married Frederick Wilson (born 1897) in Stockton-on-Tees, 1927. They had two daughters named Florence (born 1928) and Margaret Irene (born 1930). Ellen died from heart failure aged 28 in 1932 whilst working at the Stockton Union Workhouse.

On Ellen and Frederick's marriage certificate from 1927, Ellen's father is named has Thomas Owens (deceased). The only birth entries I can find for a Ellen Owens (with a father called Thomas) in Stockton are 1901 and 1906 which don't correspond with either her marriage (aged 23 in 1927) or death (aged 28 in 1932) certificates.

If anyone has information on my Ellen Owens, I would really appreciate your input. I am at a complete dead end and unable to progress further without help.

Regards
Robert

 

[davelambert271]

Hi

This is the only Ellen on 1911. There are all sorts of reasons why ages do not match, only her birth cert will confirm her actual age.

1911
OWENS, Thomas Head Married M 49 1862 Labourer Durham Stockton
OWENS, Mary Wife Married 20 years F 39 1872 Yorkshire Thornaby
OWENS, Mary Daughter Single F 17 1894 General Labourer Durham Stockton
OWENS, John Son Single M 15 1896 General Labourer Durham Stockton
OWENS, Catherine Daughter F 12 1899 School Durham Stockton
OWENS, Ellen Daughter F 10 1901 School Durham Stockton
OWENS, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1907 Durham Stockton
OWENS, Thomas Son M 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Durham Stockton

8 Children, 2 had died
lining 4 Beech St, Stockton

Have you got access to 1841/1901 census to follow the line?
dave

 

[davelambert271]

Hi
this is the only Ellen Owens born in Durham between 1900/1905

OWENS, John Head Married M 44 1867 Plater Labourer Durham Felling Shore
OWENS, Catherine Ellen Wife Married 20 years F 40 1871 Durham South Shields
OWENS, Dorothy Ann Daughter Single F 19 1892 Durham Gateshead
OWENS, Catherine Daughter Single F 17 1894 Durham Heworth Lane
OWENS, John Son M 12 1899 School Durham Heworth Lane
OWENS, Mary Ann Daughter F 10 1901 School Durham Heworth Lane
OWENS, Ellen Jane Daughter F 8 1903 School Durham Heworth Lane
OWENS, Frances Daughter F 4 1907 Durham Heworth Lane

Heworth Lane is Eelling Shore
8 Children 2 had died
living Fettis St, Heworth Lane

and I presume this is the one you have as born 1906

OWENS, Robert Head Married M 35 1876 Coal Miner Hewer Stargate Co Durham
OWENS, Mary Ann Wife Married 14 years F 35 1876 Cross Gate Moor Durham
OWENS, Margaret Daughter Single F 13 1898 School Ouston Durham
OWENS, Jane Daughter Single F 11 1900 Ouston Durham
OWENS, William Son Single M 6 1905 Haswell Colry Durham
OWENS, Ellen Daughter F 4 1907 Primrose Cottages Shotton Durham
OWENS, Mark Son M 1 1910 Shotton Colry Durham

dave

 

[davelambert271]

Hi
I did a search for Ellen Owens born 1903/1906 anywhere with a father Thomas. There were two results
1 - born 1904 Stockport, Cheshire, Thomas was a Railway Loco Driver
2 - born 1906 Newtown, Montgomery. Thomas was a Carter at Gardens

dave

 

[Robobie]

Hi Dave,

Thanks for your help. I am aware of the Owens at Beech Street and have the actual copy of the 1911 census. Ellen's birth year is shown as 1901, which I know could be a mistake. The problem is, I have no way of confirming whether this is her or not.

The only certain information I have on Eleen Owens is being born in 1904, marrying in 1927 aged 23, her death in 1932 aged 28, and her father being called Thomas Owens (stated as deceased when she married). I know nothing else, not even her mothers name. I haven't been able to find her on anyone else's family tree both on Genes Reunited and Ancestry.

I have ordered the church marriage records which I'm still waiting to arrive. I'm hoping her mothers name will be stated, otherwise I'm at a dead end again.

Regarding the 1841/1901 census to try and follow through from the 1911. I have tried, but the family don't seem to exist before 1911, even though the census states the whole family birthplace as Durham, Stockton.

This is the only Ellen on 1911. There are all sorts of reasons why ages do not match, only her birth cert will confirm her actual age.

Regards
Robert

 

[davelambert271]

Hi
I had a quick look at 1901 census
This is an entry I got searching on Catherine. - There are only two
Thomas 42 Ireland SHIPS LAB
Mary A 40 Sunderland
Bridget 13 Sunderland
Thomas 11 Sunderland
John 9 Sunderland
Mary 7 Sunderland
Ann 5 Sunderland
Catherine 3 Sunderland

and in 1891
Thomas 30 Ireland Ships Lab
Mary Ann 30 Monkwearmouth
Bridget 3 Monkwearmouth
Thomas 2 Monkwearmouth
John 2m Monkwearmouth

possible marriage to Mary Ann Kitty A/J 1885 Sunderland 10a 850.

Plenty of mis matches, but worth bearing in mind

I suppose it is possible that the Ellen born in Stockport could have moved to Stockton seeing as her father was a Loco driver..

Dave

dave