Elsie and Florinda Cottages Weston

[Edward]

I was in Weston last weekend and came across Elsie and Florinda Cottages so took this photo of them.

In 1881 they were both being lived in my my Great Great Grandparents.

Elizabeth Parker and George Pike Cozens were cousins by 1891 George Pike Cozens had moved out of Elsie cottage but Elizabeth Parker was still living in Florinda Cottage.

Census entries for those years for the House are shown below:-

Elsie and Florinda Cottages Weston

Built 1880

1881 Census

1881 Census Thomas Parker
Civil parish: St Mary Extra, Hampshire, England Administrative County
Ecclesiastical parish Sub-registration district:
Address Florinda Cottage

Name Relation Age Where Born Occupation
Thomas PARKER Head 55 St Mary Extra, Hampshire Fisherman
Elizabeth PARKER Wife 51 St Mary Extra, Hampshire
George PARKER Son 25 St Mary Extra, Hampshire Fisherman
Thomas PARKER Son 21 St Mary Extra, Hampshire Fisherman
Frederick PARKER Son 18 St Mary Extra, Hampshire Gen Labourer Unemployed
Mary PARKER Daughter 15 St Mary Extra, Hampshire
Sarah PARKER Daughter 12 St Mary Extra, Hampshire Scholar
Annie PARKER Daughter 9 St Mary Extra, Hampshire Scholar
Rose PARKER Daughter 7 St Mary Extra, Hampshire Scholar

1881 Census George Cozens
Civil parish: St Mary Extra, Hampshire, England
Address Elsie Cottage

Household Members:
Name Relation Age Where Born Occupation
George P. COZENS Head 45 Weston Master Mariner
Emma COZENS Wife 42 Newtown, Hampshire
Agnes COZENS Daughter 17 Millers Pond, Hants Assists At Home
Sarah COZENS Daughter 15 Millers Pond, Hants School Pupil Teacher
Frank COZENS Son 11 Weston, Hampshire Scholar
William COZENS Son 8 Weston, Hampshire Scholar
Emma F. COZENS Daughter 6 Weston, Hampshire Scholar
Charles COZENS Son 4 Weston, Hampshire Scholar
Richard E. COZENS Son 2 Weston, Hampshire
Elsie COZENS Daughter 6m Weston, Hampshire

1891 Census


Address: Florinda Cottage

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace
Elizabeth Parker head widow of fisherman age 62 born St. Mary Extra
Frederick son single age 28 occ fisherman born St. Mary Extra
William Norgate lodger age 27 born Weston St. Mary

1891 Census

Address: Elsie Cottage

Alfred Tanner Head
Emily Tanner Wife
Mary A Tanner Daur
George E Tanner Son
Elizabeth M Tanner Daur
Frances D Tanner G Daur

I find it fascinating to be able to relate the census entries to a real building.

Ed

 

[Edward]

Hi,

Over Christmas I ws given the Family Archive to go through lots of interesting stuff in it. Amongst the items in it is the settlement of my Great grandparents will. This showed that the cottages were at that time 1927 transferred to his daughters which shared there names.

This shows that as part of the settlement that Elsie cottage passed to Elsie Haddow and Florinda cottage to Emma Florinda Moody.

To my mum she was always known as aunty Flo.

 

[p.risboy]

Couldn't agree more Ed. I am reasonbly fortunate that my rellis didn't move very far (about a 4 mile radius) from where I grew up. I know most of the area, and as I have said in other threads/posts. I hope to return armed with a video cam to do a mini tour of my rellies home places. Have located most of their homes, so I am looking forward to it.

Steve.

 

[Hammy]

What pretty cottages. It looks as if they have been well looked after.

 

[jim soton]

This thread is of great interest to me.
My grandmother was illigitimate but I have reason to believe that her father may have been Thomas Parker c1860 of Florinda cottage.
Apparently I am the double of a David Parker c1940
I hope one day to prove the relationship.
Jim

 

[Edward]

Hi Jim,

Do you know any more about your Grandmother It would be interesting to find out. Did she live in Weston?

ED

 

[jim soton]

Hi Ed
I am not sure what I am allowed to post on here but here goes.

Annie Chambers 25/12/1878 was brought up by her two grandmothers,according to family stories.
no birth or christening,not in 1881,born six years before her mother married.
Her mother's family lived,Alma Rd(now Florence Rd) Woolston.
Her paternal grandmother lived in the fishing community of Weston( 4 houses)and sold fish from the beach? on her marriage her father is named as Tom Chambers(deceased).Because she was raised by her grandmothers she must have known her father. Believed to be Thomas Parker.
1891
Annie O'Connor Frank,
Dorothy abt 1879 Woolstone, Hampshire, England Daughter Holy Trinity, Yorkshire
1901
Annie Chambers abt 1879 Woolston, Hampshire, England Servant St Mary Extra, Hampshire
1911
WIDGERY ANNIE F 1879 32 Southampton Hampshire
Does that cover it?
regards Jim

 

[Hammy]

It's strange that you can find no reference to Annie before 1891. I've looked and can't see her either.

Have you tried writing to the register office at Southampton? Her birth may have been omitted from the GRO indexes.

Another place that might be worth checking is the baptism card index at Southampton Archives.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Jim,

Have you Annies mothers name and married name?

 

[Hammy]

I think Annie's mother was Dorathy CHAMBERS - in 1881 she is aged 24 and living with her parents, James & Elizabeth in Alma Road, Woolston, South Stoneham. Annie is not with her.

RG11/1217 folio 47 page 31

By 1891 Dorothy is in Hull married to Frank O'CONNOR. Annie is with them, aged 12, born Hampshire, Woolstone. Elizabeth CHAMBERS, Dorothy's widowed mother, is also living with them

RG12/3940 folio 108 page 7

 

[juliejtp]

Thanks Hammy.

 

[jim soton]

Thank you all for your interest.
Yes I have had a five year search of the birth registers and a baptism search.
I am thinking of adding Thomas Parker to my tree in the hope of finding living descendants.
I am aware that any family resemblance may not be with the Parkers as they intermarried with the other fishing/ferry families.

 

[Edward]

Hi Jim,

Thomas Parker is my G,G Grandfather. So please keep me informed of any other living relatives you may find.

You may want to look at the Trodd Thread on the forum George Pike Cozens was the owner of Elsie and Florinda Cottages.

There is more information about the parkers, Cozens and Trodds on the forum all families from weston and itchen ferry.

Ed

 

[Hammy]

Hi Edward,

I don't suppose Thomas PARKER left a will mentioning his illegitimate child.

 

[bmasters]

George Pike Cozens is my GG Grandfather. I have a picture of him in his uniform and I have the sextant, compass, parallel rules and set square from the yacht Florinda on which he was the Master Mariner. The yacht was launched in 1873 and owned by William Jessop, George's daughter was named after the yacht. A model of the yacht is held in the store of the Maritime Museum at Greenwich. I have been to the store and have pictures of the model yacht. A photograph of the yacht itself is held by Beken of Cowes. I have also researched the history of the yacht which we traced up to the 1960's.

I also have his medal from the Royal Cinque Ports Yacht Club of which were presented to the 5 founder members.

My mother also used to refer to Florinda as Auntie Flo.

My parents lived in Park View Cottage next to Elsie and Florinda Cottages at Weston when I was born.

 

[Edward]

Hi BMasters

As George Pike Cozens is also my GG Grandfather we must be quite closely related 3rd Cousins.

My G Grandmother was Agnes Cozens.

As my copy of George's will settlement shows that Park View was left Frank Cozens is he your G Grandfather?

Ed

 

[bmasters]

One correction on my previous post - I traced the ownership of the yacht Florinda to 1952 not 1960's.

Yes, my Great Grandfather was Frank Cozens, whose daughter Annie Cozens was my grandmother. Her sisters were Harriet and Daisy. I don't remember Harriet but knew 'Aunt Dais' very well.

 

[jim soton]

You may already have this:-

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Emma Florinda Moody Name: Emma Florinda Moody
Birth Date: abt 1875
Age: 64
Port of Departure: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Arrival Date: 24 Feb 1939
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Southampton
[Buenos Aires]
[Rio de Janeiro]
Ship Name: Almanzora
Shipping Line: Royal Mail Lines Ltd

With Dan Moody retired
Proposed Address FLORINDA cottage Weston

 

[leefer]

Hi Jim...just to say that the last post on this thread was two years ago.
Hopefully though your info will be looked at in the near future....but just thought i would let you know.

 

[Edward]

You may already have this:-

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Emma Florinda Moody Name: Emma Florinda Moody
Birth Date: abt 1875
Age: 64
Port of Departure: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Arrival Date: 24 Feb 1939
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Southampton
[Buenos Aires]
[Rio de Janeiro]
Ship Name: Almanzora
Shipping Line: Royal Mail Lines Ltd

With husband Dan
Proposed Address FLORINDA cottage Weston

Hi Jim,

I didn't know that she went to Buenos Aires.

She inherited the cottage from George and Emma the will was settled in 1927 so had owned the cottage for over 10 years by the time of the sea voyage back to Southampton.

Thanks

Ed