Elsie M V WELCH

[DaveHam9]

NSW Marriage 942/1934 BECK FRANK S - WELCH ELSIE M V - CANTERBURY * 12 Mar

1936 NSW Electoral Roll - West Sydney - Pyrmont
BECK Frank Surrey, 616 Harris street, labourer
BECK Elsie May Valentine, 616 Harris street, home duties

NSW Death# 4705/1939 BECK ELSIE MAY VALENTINE - FRANK - MARY - BANKSTOWN * 3 Mar

Looking for Elsie's birth.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[gibbo]

Not even a age on her burial [rookwood] to help.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Frank born 1906 so I guess around that. He is buried at Mona Vale with second wife.

 

[DaveHam9]

Birth not in NSW, Qld,. or Vic. or SA or WA.

I can't find a tree.

 

[gibbo]

BECK.—The Relatives and Friends of Mr FRANK S. BECK and FAMILY of 20 Waterloo Road Punchbowl are Invited to attend the Funeral of dearlj loved WIFE and their dear MOTHER Elsie Moy (Jerry) Beck to leave our runeral Home South "terrace Bankstown THIS AFTERNOON at 1.45 o'clock, for Church of England Cemetery, Rookwood.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17573534
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Her mother was still alive in 1940 .. you got info on her mother? Just wondering if they had come from elsewhere??

BECK -In loving memory of Elsie beloved mother of Barbara and Marie and daughter of Mrs Welch
Hearts that loved j ou never forget
In memory you are with us yet
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17670226

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

I had the first one but not the second. I have nothing on her mother.

 

[DaveHam9]

No burial in Rookwood in same or nearby grave.

 

[DaveHam9]

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/49797558

SA connection.

DEATHS
BECK (nee Welch).—On the 3rd of March,
at Sydney, Elsie May Valentine, age 36 years. * I've corrected Trove to 26.


https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/92441732/8745314

Age 26

 

[DaveHam9]

That should have helped. I can't find the birth or parents marriage in SA.

 

[gibbo]

Yeah one would have thought it would help but like you nothing.

 

[DaveHam9]

??
Births Jun 1913
Welch Elsie M - Talboys - Merthyr T. 11a 1625

Ruled out by this.
Marriages Mar 1906
TALBOYS Ada Eliza - Merthyr T 11a 845
WELCH George John - Merthyr T. 11a 845

 

[DaveHam9]

Mary Freda Welch
1943 Warringah, New South Wales

Mary Zillah Welch
1943 Wentworth, New South Wales

Mary Alice Welch
1943 Eden Monaro, New South Wales

Mary Elizabeth Welch
1943 Martin, New South Wales

Only those four starting with Mary and none with just Mary. And plenty more as Welsh.

 

[gibbo]

BECK -In loving memory of Elsie beloved mother of Barbara and Marie and daughter of Mrs Welch
Hearts that loved j ou never forget
In memory you are with us yet

Interesting that has her mother in the notice but no father or siblings mentioned.

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes.

So far I can't find a death for Mary Freda.

 

[gibbo]

We need someone with access to ancestry..

Elsie May Valentine Welch Walsh found in 7 treesView all
Elsie May Valentine Welch Walsh from tree Eaves-Fisher Family Tree (Private)
Record information.
Birth date date 1912 city, South Australia, Australia
No publicly available family members

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes.

I checked again 1912 +/- 1 Elsie Welch or Welsh and no birth in SA in the on-line database.

Back to it tomorrow.

 

[juliejtp]

The Elsie born 1913 has middle name Maud.

 

[gibbo]

NSW Death# 4705/1939 BECK ELSIE MAY VALENTINE - FRANK - MARY - BANKSTOWN * 3 Mar

Im not finding any births at all for Welch with father as Frank. Even tried variants of Welch and nothing that stands out.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

A death 1913 - 1940 but may not be in NSW.

NSW Death WELCH FRANK G 7043/1933 EDWIN M - ISABEL - RANDWICK

Not that one.

WELCH.—April 7, 1933, at his residence 23
Bishops -avenue, Randwick. Frank Graham Welch
youngest son of Mrs I. Welch and of the late
E. M. Welch and brother of Jack, Ted (deceased)
Rita, Norrie and Ellen aged 29 years.

Also ruled out deaths for 2x Francis Welsh in Sydney suburbs 1934 and 1937.

 

[DaveHam9]

4x Frank Welch.

There is a Dr Frank Welch in SA but he is alive in Dec 1941.

The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1931 - 1954) Thu 15 Sep 1938
Page 14
SUNTER.—In memory of Captain Robert
Sunter. late Commander M.V. Manunda. died
suddenly Cairns (Q). on the 15th of Septem
ber, 1934. The whitest man I knew.—lnserted
by Frank Welch, Sydney, N.S.W.


The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Fri 17 Oct 1919
Page 6
WELCH. --In loving memory of Acting Bombardier
Frank Welch, 106th Howitzer Battery, wounded at
Susigney, October 17, 1918, died at Rouen, October 16
The supreme sacrifice.

I can't find that one on NAA.

This one was single when he enlisted and he returned to Aust. Born 10 Mar 1899. Died 25 Sep 1982.

WELCH Frank : Service Number - 4934 : Place of Birth - Rockdale NSW : Place of Enlistment - Redfern NSW : Next of Kin - (Father) WELCH Frank Alfred

NSW Birth WELCH FRANK 15566/1899 FRANK A - EMILY - ROCKDALE

Can't be a sibling as mother is not Mary.