Emma, Harriet and William Gilchrist

[barbarajoh]

New Zealand this time for a family from Innerleithen, Peeblesshire. These 3 siblings are in the 1881 census at Innerleithen. Their parents have just died and their sister drowned in the Tweed in 1870. Another brother, John is in Liverpool in 1871.

Emma born 1845 Kent died in 1888 at Dunedin and is mentioned on the family gravestone in the Innerleithen graveyard. I found her funeral notice in the Evening Star 1888

I haven't found her on a ship and wondered if her brother and sister also went to New Zealand. Wm was born 1861in Kells, Kirkcudbrightshire and Harriet was born 1847 probably in Kent like her sister.
Parents of this 3 were John Gilchrist born Kirkcudbrightshire c 1811 and his wife Charlotte Wilkens of Rochester, Kent b 1815.

Any help appreciated.

Barbara

 

[horse]

May be of some use...

NZ Cemetery Index
Emma Gilchrist
Lived in Kaikorai [5 years in NZ]
d. 29 Sept - bur. 30 Sept 1888
[Class 1] Lot 9/10 Block 106.
Cause of death just says 'Cardiac'
Informant, H Gourley

That would put her arrival c1883.

Geoff

EDIT: Even though she died at the end of Q3, reg is noted at Q4 [Anc]

 

[barbarajoh]

Thanks Geoff, that helps pinpoint when she went over.

Barbara

 

[barbarajoh]

Just found a marriage for a Harriet Gilchrist to Archibald Dickson in New Zealand in 1885. Doesn't say where - is from FmP.

Emma's funeral notice says "leave the residence of Mr A Dickson, Kaikerai" so this looks a possible marriage for Harriet.

 

[horse]

Something to ponder..

NZ births 1886
Reg no. 18721
Gilchrist Blanche Adeline
Mother = Emma
Father not recorded

Geoff

 

[barbarajoh]

Very interesting! No familiar first names there but could well be.

Marriage for a Wm - kind of infuriating that there is no place.

New Zealand Marriages

William
Last name Gilchrist
Registration year 1885
Spouse's first name(s) Agnes
Spouse's last name Miller
Registration number 1885/2907

 

[DaveHam9]

Kaikorai is just west of Dunedin so that would be Port Chalmers (Otago) for arrival port.

A partial passenger list for this one shows none of them but the ship carried about 300 passengers.

Caroline
Ship: 984 tons
Captain: Hardy
Surgeon Superintendent:
Sailed Glasgow February 19th 1883 - arrived Otago May 23rd 1883

Searching arrivals to NZ is not easy. Very few arrivals have complete passenger lists.

 

[gibbo]

Surname GILCHRIST
Forename EMMA
Age 43 Years
Gender Female
Date of Death 29 Sep 1888
Last Address KAIKORAI DUNEDIN
Next of Kin
Funeral Director Hugh Gourley Ltd, Grant Street, DUNEDIN
Cemetery NORTHERN CEMETERY
Location Block 106. Plot 9
Date of Burial 30 Sep 1888
Type Burial
Occupation
Place of Birth
Date of Birth Not recorded
Notes Original reference:- N18880926
Native of:- ENGLAND
Years in NZ:- 5
Place died:- DUNEDIN

Interestingly enough there are 2 Dickson's in the same plot as Emma. A few other people as well.

DICKSON HUME 76 Years, Burial, Died 15 Nov 1890
DICKSON JEREMIAH 31 Years, Burial, Died 28 May 1884

Hope the link works.
http://www.dunedin.govt.nz/facilities/cemeteries/cemeteries_search?recordid=78258&type=Burial

 

[barbarajoh]

Thanks Gibbo, Link worked fine. I might be making 2 and 2 add up to 5 then as there is no Harriet or Archibald Dickson listed in the grave. But then there are no A Dicksons listed at all and the funeral notice def said Mr A Dickson.

 

[DaveHam9]

Archibald Dickson 1890 Dunedin Suburbs Otago

 

[gibbo]

Surname DICKSON
Forename HARRIET
Age 62 Years
Gender Female
Date of Death 4 Aug 1909
Last Address
Next of Kin
Funeral Director
Cemetery NORTHERN CEMETERY
Location Block 106. Plot 10
Date of Burial 6 Aug 1909
Type Burial
Occupation
Place of Birth
Date of Birth Not recorded
Notes Original reference:- N19090801
The following burials are also in this Plot
DICKSON ARCHIBALD 83 Years, Burial, Died 17 Nov 1931
DICKSON ELLEN 75 Years, Burial, Died 13 Nov 1891
DICKSON MARGARET 72 Years, Burial, Died 1 Oct 1927
DICKSON WILLIAM 78 Years, Burial, Died 21 Jul 1937

http://www.dunedin.govt.nz/facilities/cemeteries/cemeteries_search?recordid=84228&type=Burial

 

[barbarajoh]

Puts him in the right place then

 

[gibbo]

It would appear that Archibald was Hume Dickson's son. Hume been the one who is buried in with Emma. Jesus hope i havent gotten this all mixed up

Otago Daily Times , Issue 9273, 14 November 1891

 

[barbarajoh]

DICKSON
Forename HARRIET
Age 62 Years
Gender Female
Date of Death 4 Aug 1909

Cemetery NORTHERN CEMETERY
Location Block 106. Plot 10
Date of Burial 6 Aug 1909
Type Burial
Place of Birth
Date of Birth Not recorded
Notes Original reference:- N190908

Archibald in same grave so still looking likely, this Harriet is right age but no place of birth recorded.

 

[barbarajoh]

No Gibbo, all making sense! So how about William, can we find him. think he may have married Agnes Miller but not finding a burial for him.

Are there shipping records and where do I look. Not finding much on Atree. Is it only the papers and arrivals?

 

[barbarajoh]

maybe not, this Wm was a teacher and married Queenstown, not Dunedin.

 

[horse]

New Zealand, Teacher and Civil Service Examinations and Licenses, 1880-1920
William Gilchrist
Residence Abt 1887 - Place Southland
Publication Date 7 Jul 1887 - Publication Place Wellington, New Zealand
[Southland fits with Queenstown. If correct one, still there 1916]

New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
William Gilchrist
Year: 1896
District: Mataura
Region/Province: Southland
[Occ. Schoolmaster. With Agnes, domestic and Margaret, dressmaker. Abode = Gore]

Geoff

 

[horse]

Possible death...

New Zealand, Notices of Deceased Estates, 1880-1950
William Gilchrist
Died: 1 Sep 1916
Abode: Invercargill, New Zealand
[Schoolmaster. Testate]

Geoff

 

[barbarajoh]

No age though, hard to say if he is the right one. All I have is marrying at the right time

Can't find him in Scotland in 1891 but the name is so common I can't look at marriages or deaths but know there are none in Peeblesshire.

 

[horse]

No age though, hard to say if he is the right one. All I have is marrying at the right time

Yep, there is another William Gilchrist d. 1925, Invercargill.

Geoff