Emma Trodd, Weston, St Mary's Extra

[Edward]

Hi,

I am looking for information on the Trodd family.

This is I think the entry for Emma's Marriage

Marriages Mar 1863

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
COZENS George Pike S. Stoneham 2c 87
TRODD Emma S. Stoneham 2c 87

This is the family in the 1881 Census


Census 1881
Civil parish: St Mary Extra, Hampshire, England

Address Elsie Cottage
Household Members: Relation Age Where Born Occupation
George P. COZENS Head 45 Weston, Hampshire Master Mariner
Emma COZENS Wife 42 Newtown, Hampshire
Agnes COZENS Daughter 17 Millers Pond, Hampshire Assists At Home
Sarah COZENS Daughter 15 Millers Pond, Hampshire School Pupil Teacher
Frank COZENS Son 11 Weston, Hampshire Scholar
William COZENS son 8 Weston, Hampshire Scholar
Emma F. COZENS Daughter 6 Weston, Hampshire Scholar
Charles COZENS son 4 Weston, Hampshire Scholar
Richard E. COZENS son 2 Weston, Hampshire
Elsie COZENS Daughter 6m Weston, Hampshire

I have a possible birth record from the IGI it is a sumitted record so no indication of where it came from!

EMMA TRODD
Birth: 17 MAR 1839 Weston, Saint Mary Extra, Hampshire, England

Father: THOMAS TRODD
Mother: SARAH FREEMANTLE

It would be good to have more information about this family particularly Confirmation of her parents but I expect that I will have have to get the marriage certificate for that.

Weston is now part of Southampton

Many Thanks

Ed

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Edward,

Found Emma and George on the 1871. 1861 Emma with parents Thomas and Sarah. On the 1841 census living at Weston Common are Emma with Thomas and Sarah there is another family of Trodds and a Cozens family no George with them.

 

[juliejtp]

George and his family are living a few households away from Emma. The male adult of the household is a William Cozens age 45 occ fisherman, female Sarah age 40, Elizabeth age 13, William age 10, Charles age 8, George age 5 and Emily age 3. I think getting their marriage certificate is a must.

 

[Edward]

Many thanks for looking them up.

Could you give me the information you found in the 1871 Census Please.

Is there any one else listed in the 1861 with Emma and Thomas and Sarah.

Thanks again

Ed

 

[juliejtp]

OK Edward will do that tomorrow its getting late.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Edward,

The the info for 1871 on your thread dated July.

http://www.forum.familyhistory.uk.com/showthread.php?t=2928&highlight=cozens

 

[juliejtp]

1861 Trodd family

Civil Parish St. Mary Extra
Address Weston

Thomas Trodd head age 59 occ coachman ------ house? born Southampton
Sarah wife age 57 occ school mistress born St Mary Extra
Emma dau age 22 occ dressmaker born St Mary Extra
Frank son age 19 occ -----? born St Mary Extra
Eliza dau age 15 occ dressmaker born St Mary Extra
Ellen Daniels dau age 24 married born St Mary Extra
James Daniels grandson age 8mths born St Mary Extra

 

[Edward]

Sorry yes you had got me the 1871 data before.:-[

Many thanks for the 1861 data.

I must have been tired last night!

Thanks

Ed

 

[juliejtp]

1851

Civil parish St Mary Extra

Thomas Trodd head age 49 occ gardener born St Mary Extra
Sarah wife age 47 occ dressmaker born Winchester
Emma dau age 12 born St Mary Extra
Jane dau age 9 born St Mary Extra
Frank son age 7 born St Mary Extra
Eliza dau age 5 born St Mary Extra

 

[juliejtp]

1841

Civil parish St Mary Extra

James Cozens age 40 occ fisherman
Priscilla Cozens age 34
Maryann Cozens age 16
William Cozens age 14
James Cozens age 8
Jane Cozens age 10
Priscilla Cozens age 4
Samuel Cozens age 1

All born in county

2 households away are

John Trodd age 76 occ labourer not born in county
Martha Trodd age 68 born in county
Harriott Trodd age 30 " "
William Trodd age 24 labourer born in county
Ann Trodd age 5 born in county

next door but one

Charles Trodd age 34 occ labourer
Charlotte Trodd age 31 not born in county
Thomas Trodd age 9 born in county
Charles Trodd age 7 " "
George Trodd age 5 " "
Emily Trodd age 3 " "
Henry Trodd age 3mths "

Next door are

Thomas Trodd age 39 occ labourer
Sarah Trodd age 38
James Freemantle age 11
Fanny? Freemantle age 9
David Trodd age 7
Ellen Trodd age 4
Emma Trodd age 2

All born in county

living about 10 households away are

William Cozens age 45 occ fisherman
Sarah Cozens age 40
Elizabeth Cozens age 13
William Cozens age 10
Charles Cozens age 8
George Cozens age 5
Emily Cozens age 3

All born in county

Living at Weston Lane

Joseph Trodd age 30 occ labourer
Mary Trodd age 25
Richard Trodd age 5
Elizabeth Trodd age 9mths

All born in county

about 3 households away are

Benjamin Trodd age 45 occ labourer
Sarah Trodd age 40
Frederick Trodd age 16
Charlotte Trodd age 12
Robert Trodd age 9
Oliver Trodd age 7
Walter Trodd age 3

 

[Edward]

Hi

Many thanks for getting all that for me.

Ed

 

[juliejtp]

Fingers crossed they are all yours.

 

[sml]

Hi edward,
I am related to the Trodds of Newtown, Hampshire.
Do you fancy a chat?
sml

 

[Edward]

Hi

I would certainly be interested in knowing more!

Good to hear from you.

Ed

 

[sml]

Ed,
I believe that Emma's parents were Thomas (a coachman) and Sarah Trodd.
Thomas, I am reliably informed was one of 12 children born to John and Martha Trodd. I am decended from John and Martha's first born son, benjamin Trodd b.1796 a labourer from St Mary extra, Newtown,Hampshire.(Emma's uncle)
Does this mean we share the same Great Great Great Great Grandparents?
(John and Martha trodd.)

Look forward to hearing from you.

Sarah.

 

[Edward]

Hi,

I have Sarah Maiden name as Freemantle Born in Winchester but I didn't have any of Thomas's siblings or his parents.

The 1881 Census shows Thomas as a retired coachman. The 1861 Census shows him as a coachman in the 1851 Census he is shown as a Gardener and in 1841 he is shown as a labourer.

In the 1841 Census there are two children with the name Freemantle living with the Trodd's I don't know how they are related to the family!

1841 Census Trodd/Freemantle

Thomas Trodd age 39 occ labourer (born 1802?)
Sarah Trodd age 38 (born 1803?)
James Freemantle age 11 (Born 1830?)
Fanny? Freemantle age 9 (Born 1832?)
David Trodd age 7 (Born 1834?)
Ellen Trodd age 4 (Born 1837?)
Emma Trodd age 2 (Born 1839?)

John Trodd would be my Great, Great, Great, Great Grandfarther so yes we share (John and Martha Trodd).

I have a picture of Sarah's Gravestone from Weston Church she died in 1878 23 Nov.

Many Thanks

Ed

 

[sml]

Hi ,

Will send you more info tomorrow as it is late.

But, I guess the Freemantle children are Sarah's brother's children. So her nephew and niece.

As for Thomas and Sarah's children, I have David, Ellen, (married name Daniels) Emma, (married name Couzens) Jane b 1841, Frank b. 1843 (married Maria) and Eliza b. 1845.

It's good news to know I have found another member of the Trodd family.
Even if we are very distant cousins.

All the best, Sarah.

 

[sml]

Hi Ed,

Sorry, I got it wrong. That's what happens when you guess.

Apparently, Thomas married Sarah Freemantle, (a widow) so the Freemantle children living with the Trodd family in 1841 are Sarah's from her previous marriage.

I have recently made contact with another member of the Trodd family through a different website - Blacksmiths of Hampshire. Her name is Maggie.
She has supplied me with some very useful information.

Sarah.

 

[Edward]

Hi Sarah,

Do you have a record of Sarah's first marriage or that she was a widow wen she married.

I found the following record on IGI

"1803 Birth
SARAH FREEMANTLE
Winchester, Hampshire, England
Father: THOMAS FREEMANTLE
Mother: MARTHA

Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number."​

This is a submitted record so may not be accurate.

The details would agree with the information in the 1851 Census which shows her as Dressmaker born in Winchester.

The 1861 Census shows her as school mistress born St Mary Extra.

They can't both be correct

Do yo have more information on Thomas' siblings?

Many Thanks

Ed

 

[Edward]

Hi Sarah again,

Regarding Thomas' Family

Emma Married George Pike Cozens (1863) I havn't seen t with a 'U' in so what information do you have with it spelt like that?

Frank Married Maria Morgan (1865)

Ellen Married William Daniels (1859)

Thanks again

Ed