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I am searching for the parents and grandparents for my great, great, great, Grandfather James Batchelor (1776-1856). He was born in Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire, England, married Elizabeth Bird (1780-1814) also from Bradford on Avon in 1799 and had 7 Children. Married a Mary Mathews (1778-1859) in 1817 in Braford on Avon and had 8 children. My problem has been finding the right parents as in my search for James Batchelor I have found him listed with different parents. Thank you from any information you may provide.
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Jeff:):)
 

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James married twice, first to Elizabeth Bird, daughter of Daniel and Elizabeth (Alderwicke) Bird on December 26, 1799 at the Holy Trinity Church in Bradford on Avon. Three years after Elizabeth died he married Mary Matthews, daughter of James and Sarah (Redman) Matthews at the Holy Trinity Church on October 5, 1817.

Elizabeth and James had six children in Bradford:
Elizabeth (m. Ledbury) b. 1/26/1799
James b. 5/27/1802

now to look for parents !

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Thankyou Ellie for your help and the information. I have looked at a number of family trees for James Batchelor and they have listed different parent and grandparent names hence my enquiry. As he was born in Bradford on Avon it seems likely his parents lived there also or nearby. I am also assuming there probably was other Batchelor families living in surrounding area's at the time with a James in the family which may be why I can not find the right parents.
Once again thanks for your help.
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He was baptised 23rd Jan1811 parents Isaac and Anne which is why you haven't been able to find him. The baptism says he is an adult said to be 39 years old on Christmas day which makes him born 25 Dec 1771.

I've had a couple like this baptised as an adult, drive me mad.

Isaac m Ann Harvey 5th July 1767 Bradford on Avon, Isaac signed and Ann made her mark.

The only baptism I could find for an Isaac was in 1729, but again he was an adult, so I don't think he's your chap he may be from somewhere else

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Hi Amanda.
Thankyou very much for your time and the information with this research. Isaac & Anne are parents I did not know about. I found Thomas Batchelor (?-1781) and Ann (Champ ?) (1711-1790), or James Batchelor (?-1801) and Sarah Harding (?-1883) appeared to be the most probable parents from what I have been able to research. Do you know whether they had any other children besides James, or possibly who Isaac parents may have been.
Thanks for your help:):)
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Jeff
 

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I can't see any other children for this couple. There is a marriage for an Isaac to an Ann Self in 1795 Bradford on Avon, if it's a scond marriage it doesn't say he was a widower.
I could only find a baptism in 1729 Bradford on Avon, for an Isaac Batchelor an adult but no father mentioned.

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Hi Amanda.
Sorry to see you did not find any further information. Is there any other options or places we can search to find any more information. This is proving to be a needle in a haystack.
Have greatly appreciated your time searching for this info.
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This is proving to be a needle in a haystack.
One of the big problems is name variant with a very popular name in the area..

Whether starting with Bach' or Batch'...

If you haven't seen the surname index for Bradford upon Avon [provided by Wiltshire FHS] you can view it HERE Hit no. 22 when it shows.

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That couple were Isaac and Ann Self married 1795 and their son Isaac b1805.

There are a number of Batchelors with or without the t in the Bradford on Avon area and quite a few in Figheldean. It's possible that the records haven't all been transcribed yet.


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Thanks, Amanda..

Yeah, I suspect it would be quite time-consuming to try to connect them, though I can't see much else before 1797..

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I think a small tree may be required, but I'm away for a few days so not at the moment. I have an extensive Wiltshire tree, but no Batchelors/Bachellors or any other spelling :D

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Considering James names a son Daniel.

Name Elizabeth Bird
Gender Female
Christening Date 08 Apr 1781
Christening Date (Original) 08 APR 1781
Christening Place MORGANS HILL INDEPENDENT,BRADFORD ON AVON,WILTSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date 17 Dec 1780
Father's Name Daniel Bird
Mother's Name Elizabeth

edit-https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3ABird~%20%2Bfilm_number%3A0816591

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Elizabeth Bird
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

birth: 17 December 1780
christening: 8 April 1781 MORGANS HILL INDEPENDENT, BRADFORD ON AVON, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND
father: Daniel Bird
mother: Elizabeth
Joyce Bird
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

birth: 16 August 1786
christening: 26 November 1786 MORGANS HILL INDEPENDENT, BRADFORD ON AVON, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND
father: Daniel Bird
mother: Elizabeth
Joyce Bird
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

birth: 9 May 1790
christening: 8 August 1790 MORGANS HILL INDEPENDENT, BRADFORD ON AVON, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND
father: Daniel Bird
mother: Sarah
Daniel Bird
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

birth: 19 September 1783
christening: 26 October 1783 MORGANS HILL INDEPENDENT, BRADFORD ON AVON, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND
father: Daniel Bird
mother: Elizabeth
Sarah Bird
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

birth: 2 June 1778
christening: 21 June 1778 MORGANS HILL INDEPENDENT, BRADFORD ON AVON, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND
father: Daniel Bird
mother: Elizabeth
Daniel Bird
Father

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

spouse: Elizabeth
child: Sarah Bird
Daniel Bird
Father

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

spouse: Elizabeth
child: Elizabeth Bird
Daniel Bird
Father

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

spouse: Elizabeth
child: Joyce Bird
Daniel Bird
Father

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

spouse: Sarah
child: Joyce Bird
Daniel Bird
Father

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

spouse: Elizabeth
child: Daniel Bird

That' s them all on the long url

ellie
 

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