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Ethel M WARNE

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TAIT Clifford Wm Edgar EventBirth Robert Mary Colquhoun (Tait) Reg. year1888 Reg. no24615

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/122912829
Delegate Argus (NSW) - Thu 25 Feb 1915 p.2
WEDDING

Bendoc is in Victoria just S of Delegate, NSW.

TAIT Clifford William Edgar EventDeath TAIT Robert Mary Colquhoun (Tait) Reg. year1964 Reg. no9088

Birth and death and middle name for Ethel thanks.

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Birth of Ethel's cousin

COMMONS GRACE M 21588/1882 - LAVINIA - BOMBALA


Marriage 5811/1887 COMMONS WILLIAM - DOWNEY MARGARET H - BOMBALA

Can't find a Warne & Commons or Commons & Warne marriage in NSW or Vic.

Can't find a Warne & Downey or Downey & Warne marriage in NSW or Vic.


Is there another marriage before 1955 for a TAIT & WARNE Ethel ??

Not in Qld. or Vic. index.
 
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How many Ethel M Tait in the electoral rolls and what are the middle names? Say just NSW and Vic.

NSW
Ethel Maud
Ethel Mary
Ethel Margaret
Ethel Maudie

VIC
Ethel Maud
Ethel Mary
Ethel May
Ethel Margaret

Too many.

Clifford William Edgar Tait 1954 Victoria Gippsland * but no Ethel M ??

Clifford William Edgar Tait 1936 Victoria Gippsland * but no Ethel M ??

Clifford William Edgar Tait 1928 Victoria Gippsland * but no Ethel M ??

Only one death in Vic. index for a C W E. No death in NSW index.
 
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Hi Dave,
not sure but few trees have Maud for middle name...

Ethel Maud Warne b 1893 – Alfred Albert Ernest Warne & Elspeth Elsie Downey

Name Elspit Downey
Birth Date 1870
Birth Place New South Wales
Registration Year 1870
Registration Place Bombala, New South Wales, Australia
Father Edward Downey
Mother Jessie
Registration Number 7251

Mother - Death for a Elsie Warne 1893 Bendoc Vic – parents Pat Downey & Jessie wonder if she died in childbirth – Ethel b 1893 Vic ??? - father didn't register her birth ?

Name: Alfred E A Warne
Birth Date: 1868
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1868
Registration Place: Shoalhaven, New South Wales, Australia
Father: Thomas Warne
Mother: Elizabeth
Registration Number: 16447

Name: Alfred Albert Ernest Warne
Death Date: 1942
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's name: Thomas
Mother's name: Elizabeth
Registration Year: 1942
Registration Place: Newtown, New South Wales
Registration Number: 28664
SMH – Wed 16 Dec 1942
WARNE.—The Remains of the late Alfred Ernest Albert Warne late of Nowra and Strathfield, were privately Cremated YESTERDAY, December 15, 1942 at the Eastern Suburbs Crematorium JOSEPH MEDCALF, A.F.D.A., Redfern Street, Redfern.

2nd Marriage
Name: Alfred E Warne
Spouse Name: Ada J Langlands
Marriage Date: 1900
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Kiama, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Number: 6409

Name: Ada Jane Langlands
Birth Date: 1874
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1874
Registration Place: Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia
Father: Thomas Langlands
Mother: Mary Frances
Registration Number: 16090

SMH – Thu 6 July 1922
WARNE.—The Funeral of the late Mrs. JANE ADA WARNE, late of Auburn, will take place, THIS (Thursday) AFTERNOON, in the Independent Cemetery, Rookwood, on arrival of Funeral train, leaving the Mortuary Station at 1.55 p.m.
 

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Many thanks Val.

Just need to connect Elspeth to Commons family.

Elspeth must have a brother with a given name starting with P. - Ethel's uncle.

It it the right marriage for Ethel? Her death ? Any clues?

No death in Vic. index for a male P. Downey with parents that match those of Elspeth/Elsie.

The bride was given away by her uncle, Mr. P. Downey ...
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Elspeth’s Brother
Name Patrick Downey
Birth Date 1877
Birth Place New South Wales
Registration Year 1877
Registration Place Bombala, New South Wales, Australia
Father Edward Downey
Mother Jessie
Registration Number 8784

Name Patrick Downey
Death Date 1938
Death Place New South Wales
Father's Name Edward
Mother's Name Jessie
Registration Year 1938
Registration Place Delegate New South Wales
Registration Number 9124

His Orbit – Delegate Argus Thur 26 May 1938
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/...=New+South+Wales|||l-decade=193|||l-year=1938
 

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Elspeth’s sister Margaret Ellen Downey

Name Margaret E Downey
Birth Date 1862
Birth Place New South Wales
Registration Year 1862
Registration Place Bombala, New South Wales, Australia
Father Edward Downey
Mother Jessie
Registration Number 573

Marriage
Name Margaret H Downey
Spouse Name William Commons
Marriage Date 1887
Marriage Place New South Wales
Registration Place Bombala New South Wales
Registration Year 1887
Registration Number 581

Her death
Name Margaret Ellen Commons
Birth Year abt 1863
Age 91
Death Place Dele, Victoria
Father's Name Edward Downey
Mother's Name Jessie Leslie
Registration Year 1954
Registration Place Victoria
Registration Number 18514
 

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That tree was of help, thanks.

Grandmother is J = Jessie Downey.

Can't find the marriage of Warne to Downey.

Can't find the right uncle P. Downey.

Ok Edward was called Pat but he is not the uncle.


Patrick Downey.

... Mrs Windle (Bendoc) and Mrs. W. Commons (Delegate River) are sisters.
 
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It all fits but we have no marriage yet for Warne to Downey and no birth reg for Ethel.

Also no death for Ethel yet. Seems not to be in the rolls with Clifford.

This is rather odd - it's before the marriage.

Ethel Maud Tait 1914 Victoria Wannon

2x Ethel Maud Tait in NSW - one in Cook and the other in Martin

Ethel Maud Tait 1958 New South Wales Grayndler

1958 is the last but no death as Tait in NSW index.
 
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NSW Marriage 27458/1961 BULLIVANT ARTHUR ONSLOW - TAIT ETHEL MAUD - NEWTOWN


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Death BULLIVANT ETHEL MAUDE 22561/1979 THOMAS MAUDE * does not fit - age not far out

BULLIVANT Ethel Maude Death notice 02SEP1979 Death 84 late of Ashfield Sydney Morning Herald 03SEP1979

BULLIVANT Arthur Onslow Death notice 10FEB1969 Death 81 late of Petersham Sydney Morning Herald 11FEB1969

2x Ethel Maud Tait in the rolls in NSW but only one death found so far. Cook ends 1955. Martin also ends 1955.

Can't find the other death.
 
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Application for Letters Patent for an invention by Clifford William Edgar Tait titled - Improved holder for use in closing wool bales – on NAA

Ethel’s grandmother Jessie Downey nee Leslie died in Vic Oct 1928 on Tree and Vic BMD has her as Jessee Downey, can’t find anything on Trove
 

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Jessie Downey nee Leslie & Edward Downey had a daughter Jessie May Downey b 1872 NSW married William Windle 1908 Bombala NSW & tree has her death as May 1966 ACT

would make her Aunt to Ethel.
Jessie nee Leslie & Edward Downey had 9 children born Bombala 1861 - 1877
 
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Thanks Val.

Seems Ethel and Clifford didn't stay together for long.

Series 13495 / Divorce and matrimonial cause case papers (20/08/1873 - 05/08/1987)
Item 2923/1960 / Divorce papers Ethel Maud Tait - Clifford William Edgar Tait (07/09/1960 - 19/09/1961)

Too many overlapping years in Divisions Cook and Martin so must be 2x Ethel Maud Tait.

Don't know if that death is the right one with age a few years out and with both parents wrong or not. Still can't find another marriage or death.

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Birth index to 26 Apr 1918.

TAIT LESLIE R 49891/1915 CLIFFORD W ETHEL M - GOULBURN

Perhaps they had a daughter named Ethel Maud.
 

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There is this one...

Surname WARNER
Given Names ETHEL
Other Names
Date of Birth Unrecorded
Date of Death Unrecorded
Age 84 Years = b 1893
Date of Service 20-05-1977
Service Type Burial – Pinnaroo Lawn Cemetery – Bridgeman Downs Qld

**** nope not that one.. wrong parents
 

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https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/109701273

Warne and Downey - gold miners - Star of Bendoc


We need a copy of this notice.

BULLIVANT Ethel Maude Death notice 02SEP1979 Death 84 late of Ashfield Sydney Morning Herald 03SEP1979

The SMH Archive 1955 - 1995 does not work with my computer Windows 10 and wide screen monitor with the default resolution. I can't read the text if load the image.
 
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https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/109701273

Warne and Downey - gold miners - Star of Bendoc


We need a copy of this notice.

BULLIVANT Ethel Maude Death notice 02SEP1979 Death 84 late of Ashfield Sydney Morning Herald 03SEP1979

The SMH Archive 1955 - 1995 does not work with my computer Windows 10 and wide screen monitor with the default resolution. I can't read the text if load the image.
There's not a lot to be seen for the non-subscriber, this is the partial copy [for ID purposes], I don't have a subscription.
 

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Can't find the other death.
Possible..

Find A Grave:
Ethel Maude Bullivant
Death Date: 4 May 1992
Cemetery: Eastern Suburbs Memorial Park
Burial or Cremation Place: Matraville, Randwick City, NSW
[PLOT - North Walls, Wall B, Position 176]

Given the other one d. 1979, this could be the above in 1980..

NSW E/R 1980
Ethel Maud Bullivant
Subdistrict: Petersham North
District: Sydney
[On her own. 147 Corunna Road]

No age yet, birth currently unknown,

Geoff

EDIT:
Age not given in the SMH archive partial copy..
 
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Thanks Geoff.

The other death was for the second Ethel Maud Tait. Didn't know we had 2x Ethel Maude Bullivant. Only one in Ryerson. The bit you posted is from the funeral notice. Ryerson entry indicates there is also a death notice.

Arthur Bullivant
10/02/1969
1/04/1969
Ashes
North Walls, Wall B, Position 177

The 1979 Ethel is not the one who married Arthur Onslow.

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The 1992 one not in Ryerson so there may not be a notice in SMH. Local library has SMH on film from 1980 so I can scan the days following 4 May.

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