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Evans family - Blaina

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Three years ago I attempted to start on my paternal grand-mother's side of the family, but soon gave up as her maiden name was Evans. However, I have recently started the challenge again!
One part of the family is intriguing, her brother - John Evans - was born in Aberystruth in 1871. In 1902 John married Edith Ellen Chave and they had two children - Thomas and Frederick.
Within four years Edith had died.
In 1910 John remarried - to a Mary Ann Bowden (who was from Pencader, Carmarthenshire).
I believe that Fred and Tom were bought up by their aunt - Elizabeth Evans - who lived in the High Street, Blaina.
Does anyone know about Fred or Tom?
Fred was married to Ann (maiden name unknown) and there is a son living in Cwmcelyn.
Tom was married to Muriel (maiden name unknown) and was a keen chess player.
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I found this. If you havent already got this info it might give you something to work with :)


John Evans
1871-1936
Born: Blaina, Monmouthshire, Wales
Died: Blaina, Monmouthshire, Wales

Edith Ellen chave
1873-1906
Born: Devon, United Kingdom
Died: Monmouthshire, United Kingdom

Thomas Evans
1903-1972
Died: Blaina Gwent

Fred Evans
1906-2008
Born: Blaina, Blaenau Gwent, Wales
Died: Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales

Fred's wife
Wife Annie Jenkins 1908-2002
 

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Depending on when the boys went to live with their aunt they might show up on the 1911 census with her.

Edith died the same year that Fred was born. Wonder if she died in childbirth or shortly after.
 
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Thanks for that, bits of that I knew but I didn't know Ann's surname.

Yes, I wonder if Edith died in childbirth, as it seems a bit of a coincidence.

Elizabeth is still at home with her mother - Dinah - in the 1911 census.

The boys were still at home with their father and stepmother:

The 1911 census shows him living with his father - John (40); Mary Ann (31); Thomas Evans (7) and Fred Evans (4). John and Mary Ann had been married for less than a year. Mary Ann was from Pencader, Carmarthenshire. John was a colliery examiner. Their address was 60 Bournville Road, Blaina.
 

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Yes, the rest of it looks fine and matches up with what I have, although I didn't know Fred died in Abergavenny. Great to reach the age of 102 - providing you are still 'with it'.
 

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I had heard that he was around the age of 100 when he died, so you could be right. I have sent off for Edith's death certificate, so will post the result on here as to cause of death.
 

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Thanks for that link, leefer, I have already emailed them but there doesn't seem to have been any activity on there for months so I am wondering if the site is still in use. Also, my email has not appeared on the site or been acknowledged (unless he is away on holiday). Will see what happens in the next couple of weeks.
 
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Just as an update, I have now received the death certificate for Edith Ellen (nee Chave) Evans and she died two months after Frederick was born, she was aged 32.

The cause of death was Asthma and Cardiac Failure.
 
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I found this. If you havent already got this info it might give you something to work with :)


John Evans
1871-1936
Born: Blaina, Monmouthshire, Wales
Died: Blaina, Monmouthshire, Wales

Edith Ellen chave
1873-1906
Born: Devon, United Kingdom
Died: Monmouthshire, United Kingdom

Thomas Evans
1903-1972
Died: Blaina Gwent

Fred Evans
1906-2008
Born: Blaina, Blaenau Gwent, Wales
Died: Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales

Fred's wife
Wife Annie Jenkins 1908-2002
Thanks again for this info, received the marriage certificate today and Fred did marry Annie Jenkins. So that is another piece of the jigsaw in place.
 
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Update on this thread by me a few years ago, I have been in touch with the son of Fred Evans and, hopefully, he and his wife will be visiting me in the next few weeks.
Well done, that is an achievement with 'The Evans' side. Just wish I could manage that with my lot. There are thousands of "Evan Evans" from West Wales, so I gave up a few years ago.
 

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Well done, that is an achievement with 'The Evans' side. Just wish I could manage that with my lot. There are thousands of "Evan Evans" from West Wales, so I gave up a few years ago.
Thanks, it is an absolute nightmare isn't it. My paternal side are in South Wales and my maternal side in West Wales.
I am on the paternal trail and think to myself 'great, one of them has married someone with a bit of different surname, then the offspring goes and marries someone with a surname like Williams, Jones etc' so I am back to square one lol
At least it is keeping me out of mischief.
Out of interest what part of West Wales were you tracing, would it be around the Lampeter area?
 
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Thanks, it is an absolute nightmare isn't it. My paternal side are in South Wales and my maternal side in West Wales.
At least it is keeping me out of mischief.
Out of interest what part of West Wales were you tracing, would it be around the Lampeter area?
Evan Evans, my 2 x great grandfather, was born in Llanarth, Cardiganshire that's the one with thousands of others. His wife was Elizabeth Griffith, and with contact through anc, that side is sorted. Her family came from the Pembrey area - probably Burry Port. On the maternal side, there is Davies and my great grandparents were both 'Davies', they had 4 children, of which three of them married an Evans. All these moved from West Wales to the Rhondda when the pits were being started.
But you're right, it keeps us out of mischief but can be a reason to go for a pint now and then.
 

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Evan Evans, my 2 x great grandfather, was born in Llanarth, Cardiganshire that's the one with thousands of others. His wife was Elizabeth Griffith, and with contact through anc, that side is sorted. Her family came from the Pembrey area - probably Burry Port. On the maternal side, there is Davies and my great grandparents were both 'Davies', they had 4 children, of which three of them married an Evans. All these moved from West Wales to the Rhondda when the pits were being started.
But you're right, it keeps us out of mischief but can be a reason to go for a pint now and then.
That does sound like a lot of Davies and Evans. My great grandfather's side were 'incomers' as well, but from Frome, Somerset. Must have been such a difference from working in the wool trade to being a coal miner - of which there seem to be loads in the family.
Substitute chocolate instead of beer and I know what you mean lol
 

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