Everard de Fauvel Birth Abt 1247, Death 1307 in Thorolby Manor skipton

[Paulb]

Hi All, i am looking for any info that could help me create a family tree for this line.


Everard de Fauvel

Birth Abt 1247 in Thordelby
Death 1307 in Thorolby Manor skipton

record recites that Everard "held the king in capite, and of the honor of Skipton, a capital measuage and lands in Thorolby, Stretton, Broughton and Stetton.


Sons


Ralph de Fauvel 1266 –
Thomas de Fauvel 1267 –

Before his death Margaret de Clare was

given the Honour of Skipton, before the death of
Everard de Fauvel (whose IPM this is)

Complete Peerage, vol. 14,

[N. Denholm-Young, History
> and Heraldry, 1965, p. 128 and note 6]"

i do not have access to these book any help would be great


Paul

 

[leefer]

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2003-04/1050085746

I might get a rollicking for this(no ancestry allowed!)

This any help?

 

[Paulb]

Hi

Yes have seen this, re Fauvel thanks for you input.


Paul

 

[jay]

Hello Paulb,
As Skipton is in Yorkshire you could try the records for York Consistory Court as they would deal with wills. There are also the Pipe Rolls for this period.

Good luck.

 

[Paulb]

Does anyone know who or how i might find his father


Everard de Fauvel

Birth Abt 1247 in Thordelby
Death 1307 in Thorolby Manor skipton


Thanks

Paul

 

[gibbo]

Have you tried any archives in Yorkshire? I think the only way you are going to find his father is by finding a baptism record if there is one. Í would suggest contacting the archives in that area and finding out where the baptism records for that era are held.

 

[duckweed]

As far as I can tell his fathers name was William as it would seem that Everard and Constantine were brothers. And I have seen a reference that says Constantines father was William. I have a Sir William Fauvel of Skipton who seems to have died in 1297.

It does get very hard round then. I have tried looking at the Visitation of Yorkshire to see if the family was mentioned there but couldn't find them there. Suggest you try googling Visitation of some other relevant county.Visitation records were when the royal heralds asked a family to prove their right to their coat of arms by producing evidence of their family tree.

If they had lands in more than one county wills would be registered in Canterbury. Canterbury wills are listed on the National Archives site so try there. There are a lot of different spellings of Fauvel so you might have to try several variations.

 

[Paulb]

Thanks Very much Duckweed,


Could you tell me were you got ref father was William and brother constantine, i am trying build a family tree using reference documentation, ref docs on william Fauvel.

could you let me know were you found the docs ref brother of constantine please. as i will add them as proof of Parents, Could you find a wife, His heir Thomas De Fauvel seem to disapear,


There is also a branch Ref Richard Fauvel - Thorpe, who held the of honour skipton until 1313. i am not sure how they are related

Skipton Castle 1300 was at this time in the hands of the king,



Ralph de Normanville, figures as a mean lord in Stainforth, with Mauleverers and Fauvels Under him, two families also attached to the castle of Skipton. But they were birds of passage. The Fauvel of thorpes (a branch of the Fauvels) held the lordship of Little Stainforth till 1316, but vanish soon after.


In October 1336, Sir John Tempest knt owed the king £20 on an amercement, to be discharged in five years (Add. Rolls 26,590 B.M.). He witnessed at Broghton-in-Craven, 20 Decem*ber 1340, a release from Richard de Broghton to Alice, dau*ghter of Richard de Fauvelthorpe of 5 messuages and 8 bovates of land with 2s rents in Broghton (Bro’ton deeds No.21). In December 1339 it was found he had not paid anything of his debt and he was ordered to pay £6 in January ensuing the £20 to be in

 

[duckweed]

The problem is that as yet there are no firm sources. It is all supposition. What I have found is quite a few documents that have Constantine and Everard together. A site looking at Flavell family name says they are brothers but gives no sources to back that. Another family history site Constantines father was William and the William that fits is Sir William of Skipton but there is no concrete evidence. I would say it is a case of pencil it in till you can find something firm. My advice is to look for every land exchange document you can find because if you are lucky you will find sons daughters wives mentioned in them. Look for Feet of Fines which is a list of land bought and sold. The Yorkshire one is online.

Try this site as well. It is great source for medieval searches.

http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/sources/probate.shtml

The other problem is that there is land in Derbyshire Nottinghamshire and possibly Lincolnshire belonging to this family besides Devonshire so documents are scattered throughout England and there also appears to be some Scottish connection (possibly Bannockburn) I noticed the name linked up with De Brus or Bruce as in Robert the Bruce. I know that at Bannockburn there were English and Scottish Knights on both sides. These are a couple of sites you may not have looked at.

http://www.fflavell.freeserve.co.uk/FlavellName.htm

http://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/applic...sqApp=Archive&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqCmd=Search.tcl

 

[Paulb]

Thanks Again Duckweed for all your help,


Could you just point me in the direction of this site re family history site Constantines Fauvel father was William.


Thanks again

Regards

Paul

 

[duckweed]

Sorry computer crashed just as I was trying to download link and I lost it. Was a bad computer day yesterday. Tried googling it again today but somehow it didn't come back. Think it might have been site about Skipton Castle.

 

[Paulb]

Thanks again, i wonder if you can help with this link, son Thomas fauvel aged40, 1307 son of everard skipton way, I am looking for a link to the favells of burnsall, kiby overblow, lookimg for any name veriance, between 1307 and 1515, I have a Thomas favell, son Chris favell 1550, a James, and Henry favell, any help would be great Paul

 

[duckweed]

I picked up a mention of lands belonging to Everard being in the King's hands. This implies he died suddenly or his children were underage. Children who were left without a father were automatically the Kings ward (these days a ward of court).

If I am right there should be a post mortem court record where it is discussed who is legitimate heir to his lands and who takes custody of the children if underage.

 

[Paulb]

Found everard fauvels ipm says his heir was Thomas aged 40 1307, Could not find one for william de fauvel Thanks again Paul