families on passenger lists - always together?

[Frenchie]

Hi

I am trying to find my great Granda and Grandmother and their first child on passenger lists from the UK to Canada in 1912 or 1913. I can not find them at all but I have noticed that on some of the lists I can see what looks like a wife travelling alone - was this normal?

Am I looking at the lists correctly? I can see what could be my great Grandmother on one list and a record for a person who could be my great Granda on another. Did families tend to travel together or did some families travel separately?

The story that has been passed down and my Granda still sticks to is that his parents migrated to Canada on a White Star liner in 1912/13 and they threw flowers overboard when they passed the site where the Titanic sunk. (He goes on to say that they nearly had tickets for the Titanic too???) Anyway they only lasted a few years and came back I assume after the 1st WW and settled in Newcastle. I can find no evidence of this adventure so far.

Robert Edwin Ellis - real name Edwin Mountford Ellis, born 1889
Maud Ellis born 1890
Violet Lily Ellis born 1910

If anyone knows any hints and tips for the passenger list search I would very much appreciate it. Am I right to be looking for them as travelling together - same ship, same list, same class, same page?

thanks
Lisa

 

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In some instances the man went first and got settled and then the woman & children went. Sometimes the man came back for them and they travelled together.

 

[davelambert271]

Hi
this happened in my family. A husband went out to get established, then returned for a few weeks before his family and parents went back with him.
dave

 

[Frenchie]

thanks I think this must have happened in my case then.

Can I ask were infants always registered? I can't find the daughter who would have been 2 or 3 years old - she died only last year and had always talked about the journey she took when she was 3 years old on the ship to Canada.

thanks again

L
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[p.risboy]

thanks I think this must have happened in my case then.

Can I ask were infants always registered? I can't find the daughter who would have been 2 or 3 years old - she died only last year and had always talked about the journey she took when she was 3 years old on the ship to Canada.

thanks again

L
x

I would say defineatly yes. As the immigration chaps at the other end had to know who was entering the country.
I think it was a legal requirement for a shipping line to suppply this data, or have it to hand.
But she may have been down as an unamed infant.

Steve.

 

[ellisl]

obert Edwin Ellis - real name Edwin Mountford Ellis, born 1889

Hi Lisa,
Its a longshot as I notice you the last time you were on this site was 2010, but on the off chance you get an email reply to this message, I'll give it a go.
I came across your post whilst looking into my fathers family tree. His grandfather and my great-grandfather was Robert Edwin Ellis (real name Edwin Mountford Ellis) married to Maud Lily Ellis. We share the same relative
I was wondering if you ever found out who Roberts father was. I found his mother Eliza Ellen Ellis (b. Jan 1867 - d. Jun 1926). He also had an older sister Emily Mountford Ellis (b. 31 Jan 1887 - d. Jan 1973). I also know Eliza Ellen went onto Marry a gentleman called James Lear in 1895 (who became step-father to Emily and Robert (Edwin)).
I can't find any record of who Emily and Roberts biological father was. It looks like they took the Ellis surname from their mothers maiden name.
If you did ever find out who Roberts father was, it would be great to find out.
Thanks
Lee