Family in Birkenhead

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Would someone kindly see if they can find the families of Robert Wallace b 1904 Barrow in Furness and Barbara Allen b Birkenhead 1903. They married in Birkenhead 1935

I would appreciate any help.

 

[davelambert271]

Hi

Barbara Allen
England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000
christening: 25 Mar 1903 Holy Trinity,​ Birkenhead,​ Cheshire,​ England
residence: 25 Mar 1903 St. Mary,​ Birkenhead,​ Cheshire,​ England
parents: William Thomas Allen,​ Gertrude May
Her marriage to Robert was her 2nd. She married John C Sharp in 1923 at Birkenhead.

I can't find Robert in 1911, unless he is the son of Kate. She was living at 18, Fisher St, Barrow, where dau Jane was born in 1910. She and further children, Kate 1901, Robert 1904, Nellie 1906 and David 1907 were born in Govan Lanark (according to the census)

 

[davelambert271]

Latest Census
Name: Baraba Allen
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Daughter
Birth Place: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Street Address: 17 Eastham St Birkenhead
Registration district: Birkenhead

Piece: 21980

Thomas Allen 33 Stalybridge, Dock Lab
Gertrude May Allen 30 Wolverhampton
William Thomas Allen 10 Birkenhead
Baraba Allen 8 Birkenhead
Gretrude May Allen 6 Birkenhead
Ivy May Allen 1 Birkenhead
Joseph H Lofshouse 31 Middlesborough, Lab Lodger

dave

 

[davelambert271]

Thomas Allen married Gertrude May Williams - Wolverhampton Sep qtr 1900 ref 6b 1040

 

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Thank you for your help once again. It's very much appreciated.

 

[davelambert271]

Hi

Have you any ideas re Robert? have you any other bits of info which confirm the family fron Govan are yours

dave

 

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Have only just looked at this family and all I have is the basics so I'll off digging!

Thanks Dave

 

[oznannie]

Hi Bubble
There are two Robert Wallace listed in Gores Directory 1938
one is at 4 Florence St Bhead the other at 25 Devonshire Pl
Claughton, no occupation for either sorry.

There is a death for a Barbara 1977 Wallasey bn 1903
and one for a Robert Wallace aged 84yrs in 1989 Bhead.

Ozn

 

[oznannie]

Hi again
If you look in Ches BMD there are a couple of births for Sharp maiden Allen in Bhead between 1924-26.

Oznannie

(John Cecil Sharp at St Mathew's Bhead)

 

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Thanks for looking Oznannie. I'll check those out x

 

[oznannie]

No worries

Ozn

 

[anthonyallen118]

Bubble,
whillst searching elsewhere for my own family history, I came acrooss your posting re. William Thomas Allen and Gertruse May Allen (nee Williams) I have info on both of these, tracing William back to 1835 and Gertrude to 1670. is it of any use to you? They were my Great Grandparents. I saw your question re Bob Wallace and Barbara Allen, Barbra's sister, Gertrude was my Gran

Regards

Tony

 

[oznannie]

Welcome aboard Tony.
It's great you have found this post and can add some information.
Good luck
Oznannie

 

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Hi Tony,

I'm looking at these names for a friend and William and Florence were her G Grandparents as well. Her Grandparents were Robert and Barbara (her Mum's parents) and she remembers them all well. It would be really good if you would share the info that you have. Thanks for getting in touch it has made her day!

Regards

Gaynor

 

[anthonyallen118]

GAynor,
Your friend will be my father's (Tommy Allen) cousin.

Going backThomas Allen married gertrude MAy Williams in 1900.

Gertrude MAy was the daughter of Martha Willams (nee BAll) and William George Williams, both from Garndiffaith in Monmouthshire, married in 1868
(Copy from register: 15/8/1868, William George, Williams, x, 21, B, collier, otp, Benjamin Williams, collier, Martha, Ball, , 19, Spin, , otp, Luke Ball, collier, Luke Ball, Thomas Nelmes x, , B, , , , , , , , , , , ,)

William was born about 1847, the son of Benjamin Williams, both colliers.

MArtha BAll age 18 in 1868, was the daughter of Luke ball and his wife Margaret, nee Jones, who father was James Jones

Copy from Register: 15/9/1849, Luke, Ball, , 21, B, miner, otp, Job Ball, blacksmith, Margaret, Jones, , 23, Spin, , otp, James Jones, dead, Joseph Wayman, James Saunders, , B, , , ,

Luke was borm in Winford, about 10m south of Bristol where is father Job was Parish Clerk and Blacksmith. He was born in 1801 and died after falling over after coming out of a pub in 1850. He was married three times, first Mary Broad, Lukes mother, died in 1831, then to HAnnah Weaver and then to Charlotte Wilcox in 1837.

Job was the son of Richard Ball b 1749 d 1814 and Mary James 1756 - 1637 Job was the youngest of their 12 children. Richard was the son on John BAll and Jenny Williams married in 1746, John was born in 1726 and died in 1784

Johns parents were William 1690 - 1741 and MAry Ball nee Ballock

Williams parents were William Ball 1670 to 1745 and HAnnah Ball nee Beale 1670 to 1744


Robert Wallace and Barbara Allen had five children, Stan, Ruby, Peggy, Barbara and Robert. I remember their mum, my dad's Auntie Barbara having met her at different times.

Her father Thomas b. 1878 was the son of John Thomas Allen b 1852 and Barbara Ann Wilkinson b 1849 (Her father -I think his name was John but I would have to check, was born in Bangalore India I feel he was army or missionary? )

John was the son of Thomas Allen b 1820 and Elizabeth Berryb 1825. Thhomas was from Bottom Moor Lancashire, they married at Dukes Alley Chapel in Bolton on 29 April 1847. Elizabeth was the daughter of John Berry from Halifax

Hope this is of use

Regards

Tony

 

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Thank you so much Tony. You have obviously worked hard to get all that information and I'm sure it will be appreciated. I'll pass it on and let you know if she can add anything else.

Regards

Gaynor

 

[Margella]

Hi My grandparents were Robert & Barbara Wallace my mother was Peggy
Ruby Barbara & Robert are the remaining still alive
Margaret