Father - Anthony Snider Dowling

[Embosso]

Greetings! First time user. At a dead end. "Anthony Snider Dowling" born May 21 1893 Calcutta. Father Frederick Snider Dowling Mother: Marjorie Harcourt. Sent to boarding school St. Lawrence Jersey age??? Leaves England Oct 18th 1909 for Sydney Australia Joins Australian army August 1914 is discharged 1919 Leaves England 1920 for Canada. I have most of his history in Canada. Cannot find any record in India, England or Australia. I believed he worked his way to England in 1919 by being a STOKER on a boat.

Eardley Dowling son in Canada

 

[gibbo]

Re: Father

Anthony Snider Dowling is quiet elusive

As yet i have not found a military record in Australia for him.

Do you have any further info on him? Did he have siblings etc.
Are you able to say where you got his parents names from? Certificates?

I did how ever find this on FMP, a incoming passenger list to Australia.

DOWLING A Birth year 1894 — 1909 Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

tho im unable to find anything more to help eliminate or confirm this is your fella.

 

[gortonboy]

Re: Father

in case this is relevant. Cant connect them yet.



First name(s) Arthur Snider
Last name Dowling
Baptism year 1867
Birth year 1867
Place Lucknow,Christ Church
Presidency Bengal
Mother's first name(s) Mary Sarah
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) George Augustus
Father's last name Dowling
Baptism date 6 Oct 1867
Birth date 31 Jul 1867
Archive reference N-1-122
Folio 39First name(s) Arthur Snider
Last name Dowling
Baptism year 1867
Birth year 1867
Place Lucknow,Christ Church
Presidency Bengal
Mother's first name(s) Mary Sarah
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) George Augustus
Father's last name Dowling
Baptism date 6 Oct 1867
Birth date 31 Jul 1867
Archive reference N-1-122
Folio 39

In Memory of
ARTHUR SNIDER DOWLING
INFANT SON OF MR AND MRS G.A. DOWLING
WHO DIED ON THE 5TH NOV 1867
AGED 3 MONTHS AND 5 DAYS


First name(s) George Augustus
Last name Dowling
Marriage year 1865
Marriage date 23 Oct 1865
Spouse's first name Mary Sarah
Spouse's last name Johnson
Place Lucknow
Presidency Bengal
Bride's age 19
Groom's father's first name James Peter
Groom's father's last name Dowling
Bride's father's first name -
Bride's father's last name Johnson

 

[gibbo]

Re: Father

I did how ever find this on FMP, a incoming passenger list to Australia.

DOWLING A Birth year 1894 — 1909 Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

tho im unable to find anything more to help eliminate or confirm this is your fella.

Got the list but i dont understand why his name has been crossed out
Would that mean he wasnt on the ship?

 

[gortonboy]

Re: Father

Again...posting in case it becomes relevant or is connected,,,,parents residing in Calcutta,,,,,Frederick is a Hide Merchant.

First name(s) Marjorie Snider
Last name Dowling
Baptism year 1906
Birth year 1906
Place Dhurrumtollah,Sacred Heart
Presidency Bengal
Mother's first name(s) Rosylin Muriel
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) Frederick Snider
Father's last name Dowling
Baptism date 9 Oct 1906
Birth date 12 Sep 1906
Archive reference N-1-336
Folio 56

 

[Embosso]

Thank you for your reply's. Additional information. Anthony Snider Dowling Born Calcutta, India 1893. Other information already posted. . Canada in 1940 required a citizenship revue. My father wrote on it that he was a staff Sargeant in the medical corp. attached to HQ. I have contacted the Australian military. They claim he had an alias. I knew my father for 45 years and never once was he deceptive. In reply to questions about his past he always answered "too Painful". Would mr gibbo e-mail me the full page of the ships list or where to find it. Regards

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[Ellie7]

Hi,have you tried this site.
http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/

Ellie

 

[gibbo]

Would mr gibbo e-mail me the full page of the ships list or where to find it.

Im sorry but im unable to get the shipping list again. I got it from Findmypast during one of their "free" periods. Maybe someone who has access might be able to get it for you.

Are you able to say where you got the names of Anthony's parents from please? Just some things dont seem to be adding up and im trying to sort through it.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hi,

https://www.aif.adfa.edu.au/aliases.html

Sorry, but I can find nothing that shows he ever joined the A.I.F.

Dave

 

[gibbo]

Im beginning to think that Anthony's parents never married.

 

[gibbo]

Re: Father

Again...posting in case it becomes relevant or is connected,,,,parents residing in Calcutta,,,,,Frederick is a Hide Merchant.

First name(s) Marjorie Snider
Last name Dowling
Baptism year 1906
Birth year 1906
Place Dhurrumtollah,Sacred Heart
Presidency Bengal
Mother's first name(s) Rosylin Muriel
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) Frederick Snider
Father's last name Dowling
Baptism date 9 Oct 1906
Birth date 12 Sep 1906
Archive reference N-1-336
Folio 56

There was also another child who was born 1910 and died 1910.

Name Frederick Dowling
Event Type Death
Event Date 30 Jun 1910
Event Place Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Gender Male
Race white
Age 0
Birth Year (Estimated) 1910
Birth Date 07 Jun 1910
Birthplace Philadelphia
Marital Status Unknown
Father's Name Frederick S. Dowling
Father's Birthplace England
Mother's Name Roslyn M. Vailland
Mother's Birthplace India
Burial Date 01 Jul 1910

 

[gibbo]

Mother: Marjorie Harcourt.

Do we know what happened to Marjorie? Did she marry / remarry? If so i wonder if he used his step father's name when he signed up for the military.

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm wondering how much is fact.

If the Army said he used an alias why can't they supply it and his service number?

 

[gibbo]

I'm wondering how much is fact.

Yes a lot of it doesnt add up. Intriguing tho
Im wondering which records the parents names come from.
I'll keep thinking, im not going to give up just yet :biggrin:

 

[gibbo]

"Anthony Snider Dowling" born May 21 1893 Calcutta.

Leaves England 1920 for Canada.

Can someone have a look and see if Anthony can be found on the United states 1930 census please.

 

[Ellie7]

Frederick S Dowling
Event Type Census
Event Date 1940
Event Place Ward 34, Philadelphia, Philadelphia City, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender Male
Age 71
Marital Status Widowed
Race (Original) White
Race White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birthplace England
Birth Year (Estimated) 1869

Ellie

 

[gibbo]

All the USA census i have found Frederick Snider Dowling in states his place of birth as England. I found a 1921 Canadian census for Anthony and he states his parents native place as India.

 

[gibbo]

Starting from his arrival in Australia

DOWLING ANTHONY MR ... age 17 .... arrival DEC 1909 .... SHIP MORAVIAN

The Sydney Morning Herald
Sat 11 Dec 1909

MORAVIAN DUE ON MONDAY.
The Aberdeen liner Moravian is due at Sydney on|Monday morning, from London, via Capetown and ports, with the following passengers:
From London: Mr. and Mrs. T. J. Ahier and family, Mr. C. Asprcy, Mr. S. Ashby, Mr. W. Akistcr, Mr. and Mrs. \V. Burnett, Miss S. Bell, Mrs. Black and 3 children, Mr. Broderick,'Miss F. Balley, Mr. .W. Braddey, Mr. \V. Barbour, Mr. \V. Brown, Mr. D. Beveridge, Mr. ,0. Braknoss, Mr. E. Barrett, Mrs. M. Blackahy and 2 children, Mr. - and Mrs. E. Bolitho, Mrs. M. Bonner and family, Mr, nnd . Mrs. W. Barrington, Mr. \V. Ohamnav, Mr. J. Carter, Mrs. M. Clarke, Miss Culshaw, Mr. G. Chisholm, Messrs. 0. Case, 0. Cooke, F. Curtis, li. Clarke, A. Carter, J. Collins, R. Cant, T. Grcgden, li. Dlckcrson, A. Day, A. Dowling, .1. Darnley, G. Dalley, Mrs. M. Kcrln. Miss M. Christie, Mn. etc etc

 

[DaveHam9]

Search the First World War Embarkation Rolls
519x Anthony

 

[gibbo]

Im not doing anymore on this one at the moment until i hear back from Eardley on where he got Anthony's parents names from etc. so we can make sure we are following the right path.

Dave, i have been through all the WW1 records with all different combinations of names etc and i cant find any that even seem remotely like him