FLETCHER & McEACHERAN connection

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Flora Mcmurchy
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 05 Jun 1822
christening: 06 Jun 1822 ,​ SOUTHEND,​ ARGYLL,​ SCOTLAND
residence: 1822 Southend,​ Argyllshire,​ Scotland
parents: John Mcmurchy,​ Katherine Mceachran

Flora married William Reid FLETCHER b. 1824 Campbeltown, Argyll

An Archibald FLETCHER married Barbara McEACHRAN and a daughter Barbara b. 1806 Campbeltown, Argyll.

John PEDEN married Catherine McEACHERAN and son Archibald Fletcher PEDEN b. 1810 Campbeltown, Argyll married Barbara FLETCHER and daughter Catherine b. 1835 Campbeltown, Argyll married Alfred CADY and son Alfred Ernest CADY married Lydia G FLETCHER, who's father was William Reid FLETCHER, who's father Robert married in Campbeltown, Argyll in 1816.

I'm not lost. :2fun:

principal's name: Archibald Peden
estimated birth year: 1812
age in years: 26
native place of principal: Kilblan, Argyleshire, Scotland
father's name: John Peden
mother's name: Catherine Mceachern
spouse's name: Barbara Peden
native place of spouse: Campbelltown, Argyleshire, Scotland
spouse's father's name: Arch Fletcher
spouse's mother's name: Barbara Mceachern
ship: St George
date of arrival: 15 Nov 1838
volume: 11
gs number: 416875
dgs number: 4117087
image number: 04823

 

[DaveHam9]

John Mcmurchy
Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910
marriage: 27 Jul 1818 Killean And Kilchenzie,​Argyll,​Scotland
spouse: Catharine Mceachrane

The next step is to find a birth/baptism for Catherine.

Piece: SCT1841/532 Place: Southend -Argyllshire Enumeration District: 10
Civil Parish: Southend Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island:
Folio: 10 Page: 1
Address: Kilblaan
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCMURCHY Cathrine F 50 Pauper Unknown
MCMURCHY John M 18 Ag Lab Unknown
MCMURCHY Flora F 15 Unknown

All three ended up in Australia but only Catherine found so far in shipping records.

MCMURCHY Catherine 70 Lloyds 1856 Sydney and/or Newcastle MCCURCHY Reel 2138, [4/4793]; Reel 2474, [4/4962]

Arrived 4 Sep 1856

Widow on embarkation - Housekeeper - Argyll - Church of Scotland - Read

Possible:

Cathrine Mceachran
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
christening: 04 Feb 1787 KILCALMONELL AND KILBERRY,​ARGYLL,​SCOTLAND
parents: Lachlan Mceachran


I'd like a look up please for Catherine in 1851.

FreeCEN coverage of Argyll in 1851 is 4.7%.

Flora won't be there but I'm not sure about John born 1819.

 

[barbarajoh]

This could be her Dave if using her maiden name which is quite possible in Scotland.

MCEACHRAN, Cathrine Head Widow F 66 1785 Sailors Widow
Campbeltown
Argyllshire N/A

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Piece:
507 Folio:
311 Page:
24 Registration District:
Cantyre

Civil Parish:
Campbeltown Municipal Borough:
Address:
Shore Street West Side, Campbeltown County:
Argyllshire

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Barbara,

Thank you very much. Looks ok to me. They all have her name as Cathrine.

I'm taking this one bit by bit.

I have a FLETCHER family from Campbeltown that seems to have connections to others on my tree also from Argyll.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Archibald Fletcher PEDEN b. abt 1810 married Barbara FLETCHER

Archibald's mother said to be Catherine McEACHRAN who married John PEDEN.

Barbara Fletcher
Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910
marriage: 26 Mar 1831 Southend,​Argyll,​Scotland
spouse: Archibald Peddan


Barbara Fletchart
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 17 Oct 1806
christening: 26 Oct 1806 CAMPBELTOWN,​ARGYLL,​SCOTLAND
parents: Archibald Fletchart,​ Barbara Maceacharn ** can't find marriage on FS

Deaths in NSW
1910/1856 PARDEN ARCHIBALD - UNKNOWN DIED CAMDEN CAMDEN
6686/1889 PEDEN BARBARA - ARCHBALD - BARBARA - GOULBURN

 

[DaveHam9]

Archibald & Barbara PEDEN (variations) arrived 1838 so they are not in 1841 census.


Piece: SCT1841/532 Place: Southend -Argyllshire Enumeration District: 10
Civil Parish: Southend Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island:
Folio: 10 Page: 5
Address: Point
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
FLETCHER Archd. M 60 Farmer Argyllshire
FLETCHER Barbara F 60 Argyllshire
MCARTHER Alexander M 25 Shoemaker Argyllshire
MCARTHER Barbara F 25 Argyllshire
MCARTHER John M 3 Argyllshire
MCARTHER Robert M 1 Argyllshire


One of several possible baptisms for Archibald:

Archibald Fletcher
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
christening: 12 Dec 1777 CAMPBELTOWN,​ARGYLL,​SCOTLAND
parents: Hugh Fletcher,​ Janet Mcalaster

 

[DaveHam9]

No luck finding Catherine/Cathrin(e) PENDEN in 1841. I tried all born 1770-1800 without family name entered. Assuming she didn't remarry.

Less than 1% of the family names in Argyll 1770-1800 start with P.


Where is my pen and paper in this paperless office? I need to draw a tree.

Found a pen and paper so I'll get to drawing the tree today.

 

[DaveHam9]

On searching FS and SP:

Cathrine McEACHRAN 4 Feb 1787 Kilcalmonell, Argyll

Catherine McEACHRAN 30 Mar 1773 Southend, Argyll

3x Archibald FLETCHER 1777-1781 in Argyll and 1x in Campbeltown

Zero John PAN... / PAD... / PED... / PEN... 1770-1785 in Argyll


I can't find the marriage of John PEDEN (variations) to Catherine McEACHRAN

I can't find the birth/baptism of son Archibald Fletcher PEDEN abt 1810


Also noted these extracted records from IGI:

Barbara McEACHRANE
baptism: 23 Dec 1769 Southend, Argyll
father Donald

Catrine McEACHRANE
baptism: 13 May 1769 Southend, Argyll
father Neil

Cathrine McEACHRANE
baptism: 12 Feb 1771 Southend, Argyll
father Dugald

Archibald FLETCHER & Barbra McEACHARAN
marriage: 21 Nov 1797 Campbeltown, Argyll

John McDONALD & Kathrine McEACHRAN
marriage: 5 Nov 1800 Southend, Argyll

 

[DaveHam9]

Piece: SCT1841/532 Place: Southend -Argyllshire Enumeration District: 10
Civil Parish: Southend Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island:
Folio: 10 Page: 5
Address: Point
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
FLETCHER Archd. M 60 Farmer Argyllshire
FLETCHER Barbara F 60 Argyllshire

I'd like a look up for them in 1851 please.

 

[barbarajoh]

Can't find either of them Dave, sorry. Looks like they died.

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara.

I don't think I can do much more with this one. I will check SP for deaths and that's about it.

Very few family names starting with P in Argyll. No luck with PEDEN or variations.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Only finding a few PEDANs in Argyll in 1841 in Campbeltown:

Piece: SCT1841/507 Place: Campbeltown -Argyllshire Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: Campbeltown Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island:
Folio: 11 Page: 3
Address: Drumlemble
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
PEDAN Robert M 70 Coalminer Outside Census County (1841)
PEDAN Mary F 50 Argyllshire
PEDAN Janet F 8 Argyllshire

And Elizabeth aged 13 a servant in a household.

Someone has asked:

Did John have a brother Robert - b. @1771? Robert married Mary Bryan in Campbeltown and their children were all born there. 1841 census has Robert and Mary in Drumlemble.I can find no other connections of Peden / Paden in Argyll.

No date is given but John is described as: Labourer of Kilkian

 

[DaveHam9]

John Padyen
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 16 May 1770
christening: 20 May 1770 ,​ WISTON AND ROBERTON,​ LANARK,​ SCOTLAND
residence: 1770 Wiston and Roberton,​ Lanarkshire,​ Scotland
parents: James Padyen


Richard Padyen
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 13 May 1772
christening: 17 May 1772 ,​ WISTON AND ROBERTON,​ LANARK,​ SCOTLAND
residence: 1772 Wiston and Roberton,​ Lanarkshire,​ Scotland
parents: James Padyen


There are several John PEDENs & variations in Ayr and other places.

 

[DaveHam9]

Back to this one after viewing the shipping reel.

MCMURCHY Catherine 70 'Lloyds' 1856 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reel 2138, [4/4793]; Reel 2474, [4/4962]

Arrived 4 Sep 1856
Widows on embarkation
Housekeeper Argyll CS=Church of Scotland Read

Catherine 70 Southend Argylshire - Angus & Flora McKechnie Both dead - C. S. Read - 2 Sons & 1 Daughter Archibela ? Puden ? John McMurchy & Flora Fletcher living at Goulburn & Camden - Good None £15 a/c ? by William Fletcher

NSW Death 3067/1869 McMURCHY CATHERINE AGE 85 YEARS DIED YOUNG YOUNG


So we have a bit more to work with - age in 1856 and at death and parents.

Angus McEACHERAN (variations)
Flora ( McKechnie ) ? or is that a variation of her married name ?

Children in Australia:

Archibald Peden ?
John
Flora married to William Reid FLETCHER

NSW Deaths
2879/1865 McMURCHY JOHN - JOHN - CATHERINE - YOUNG
9145/1905 FLETCHER FLORA - ? McMURCHY - ? - HURSTVILLE

I can't find a death for Archibald P. McMURCHY. I can't find any trees to mislead me.


Can we find a baptism for Catherine and a marriage for her parents?

 

[barbarajoh]

these are the only two baptisms I can find

and I found out today that Scotlandspeople do not recognise Catherine and Catharine as variations of the same name - grrrrrrrrrrrr


1 25/02/1789 KERRAL CATHARINE ANGUS KERRAL/ F SOUTHEND /ARGYLL
2 31/10/1788 MCISAAC CATHRINE ANGUS MCISAAC/ F SOUTHEND /ARGYLL

Cant find a marriage at all.

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Barbara,

Thanks.

So we are still stuck. No sign of a baptism for Catherine (variations) McEACHRAN (variations) and no sign of a marriage for her parents.

We have a baptism for John McMURCHY but no sign of one for brother Archibald P.

Also no sign in shipping records of John & Archibald.

Also no death found yet for Archibald.

Regards,

Dave