Florence May ROACH

[DaveHam9]

Births Sep Qtr 1883 ROACH Florence May - Toxteth Park 8b 170

Census ?

Arrival ?

NSW Marriage 7802/1907 LESLIE WILLIAM - ROACH FLORENCE M - INVERELL * 31 Jul

NSW Death 2198/1946 LESLIE FLORENCE MAY - WILLIAM - CATHERINE - FORBES * 13 Feb

 

[emeltee]

Forence's birth ref gives mmn as Sherlock. This looks to be the family in 1881 as both sons have mmn Sherlock and the parents names, William and Catherine match the names given at Florence's death.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-4T9L

It is the only Census I can find. I cannot find a marriage for William and Catherine however I have discovered that Florence was born 1 June 1883 and baptised 20 June 1883 at Our Lady of Mount Carmel Roman Catholic Church in Liverpool, parents William Francis Roach and Catherine nee Sherlock.

Florence's baptism and the 1881 Census are the sum total of what I can find.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks emeltee.

1946

... Born some 62 years ago in Liverpool, England, the late Mrs. Leslie came with her parents, Mr. and Mrs. William Roach- and two brothers at the age of 18 months, to Australia. Some time later her father passed away, her mother afterwards marrying Mr. Thomas Grayson, who was a property owner in the Narrabri district. ...

NSW Marriage 4167/1887 GRAYSON THOMAS - ROACH KATE - BREWARRINA

NSW Death 9889/1893 GRAYSON CATHERINE - PATRICK - ROSE - NARRABRI


https://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/...S Abergeldie_3 Feb 1884/4_480800170.jpg&No=10
Assisted to NSW
NRS5316/4_4808/S S Abergeldie_3 Feb 1884/
William ROACH 30 Abergeldie 1884 Sydney Reels 2142, 2495
Kate ROACH 30
William ROACH 4
Albert ROACH 2
Florence M ROACH Inft

 

[DaveHam9]

Births Jun Qtr 1852
ROACH William - Liverpool 8b 88 mmn BROWN

Births Sep Qtr 1853
ROACH William - Liverpool 8b 34 mmn NEYILLE

Births Sep Qtr 1853
SHERLOCK Catherine - Liverpool 8b 93 mmn MORRISSON

I can't find a Sherlock & Morrisson marriage.

 

[DaveHam9]

NSW Deaths

632/1884 ROACH WILLIAM J - - LUCY - SYDNEY

6003/1886 ROACH WILLIAM - JAMES - ANASTATIA - WATERLOO

I can't confirm it's either of those.

 

[solidrock2]

Catherine SherlockAge: 0Birth Date: 17 Aug 1853Baptism Date: 4 Sep 1853Baptism Place: St Mary's, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: James SherlockMother: Ann Sherlock

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Keith.

 

[emeltee]

James Sherlock married Ann Morrisson 12 February 1858 St Patricks RC Church, Toxteth Park.

Marriage on Lancs OPC

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks emeltee.

Parents as Patrick and Rose are way off.

There are other Grayson deaths in the index but given name is not Catherine.

NSW Death 6067/1902 GRAYSON THOMAS - THOMAS - - NARRABRI

NSW Death 13484/1905 GRAYSON KATHLEEN R - JOHN - JANE G - NARRABRI

Nothing found in Trove yet for any of those deaths.

 

[DaveHam9]

??
1913
On Thursday the Rev. Waterhouse,
of Inverell, united in the holy bonds
of matrimony, Catherine Grayson, aged
68 (a widow), to Patrick Murphy, aged
71 (a widower). Both are old age pen-
sioners.


That makes it even harder to find the right death.

 

[Bootzy]

Your post 10 – not your Catherine.. this was a Catherine Smith
On Wyong Family History group has:
Catherine (Kate) b 1 May 1851 Glennies Creek died 3 Oct 1922 Narribri – John Smith & Mary A – reg 15156
marries 1st James William Riley 2 Aug 1869
married 2nd James Grayson/Gleeson 1901
married 3rd Patrick Murphy 1913


your Catherine on Findagrave – Catherine Sherlock Grayson
b 1853 Liverpool died 6 April 1933 Maclean, buried Moree Cemetery – plot C of E Section c Plot 10

she married 1st William Edward Roach (1854-1886) in 1872 – had William Edward Roach (1879-1953) & Albert James Roach (1881-1944)
2nd marriage Thomas Henry Grayson (1861-1919) in 1887 – had 4 children

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial...Y2Nzg0ODE4MmY4LjMyLjEuMTY3NzM2NTU2My40Ni4wLjA.

All I can find for death notice for Catherine in April 1933 – thanks by son John Matthew Grayson (1893-1963)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/195030419?searchTerm=grayson
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/194777183?searchTerm=grayson

Thomas Henry Grayson – July 1919
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/115778077?searchTerm=grayson

NSW BDM Kathleen Grayson 1933 Maclean – John & Ann – reg 8249

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

NSW Death GRAYSON KATHLEEN 8249/1933 JOHN - ANN - MACLEAN

If that's the right one then there is an error with father as John.

 

[DaveHam9]

Another error somewhere.

There is no daughter Florence Roach b. 1883 on the list of children. ??


I can't find the 1872 marriage.

I can't find a birth in Qld. index for Thomas Grayson in 1861.

 

[Bootzy]

Thomas Grayson born 27 Feb 1861 Qld – Thomas Grayson & Hannah Nesbitt – page 5680 reg 000167
father Thomas Henry Grayson b 1831 Seagoe Parsih Armagh – Thomas Grayson (1794-1879) & Jane Hamilton (1793-1873)
married 22 Jan 1852 Seagoe to Hannah Nesbitt (1826-1913)

arrived 10 Oct 1852 as Thomas Gracen age 21 from Fintenna Tyrone Ireland with Hannah 27 & son James 1 – on ship “Kate” - NSW Immigrant passenger list
had 3 children in NSW then had Thomas 1861 and David in 1863 in Qld

he died 26 May 1902 Narrabri
wife Hannah died 16 Jan 1913 Narrabri – both buried Narrabri Old Gen cemetery


NSW Assisted Immigrant – arrived 3 Feb 1884 on ship “Abergeldie”
William Roach age 30 with Kate 30, William 4, Albert 2, and Florence infant

Florence May Roach b Sept qtr 1883 Toxteth Park Vol 08B page 170 – mmm Sherlock

aha – found marriage June qtr 1878 W Ham Vol 4a page 155 - William Roach & Kate Sherlock

on 1881 census 202 Windsor st, Toxteth Park Lancs – ED 33 piece 3640 Folio 132 age 10 – (Albert is 2 days old)

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.