Frederic MESSITER and Jane PRICE

[DaveHam9]

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 17 June 1857 p.1
MARRIAGES
On the 10th instant, at St. Mary's, Balmain, by the Rev. W. Stack, Mr. Frederic Messiter, of Malmesbury, Wilts, to Jane, youngest daughter of the late William Price, Esq., of Rodborough Fort, Gloucestershire.

Burial 186008250 122/1860 MISSITE FREDERICK AGE 38 YEARS DIED SYDNEY


The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 11 February 1860 p.1
DEATHS
On Wednesday, the 8th instant, at his residence, Balmain, Mr. Frederick Messiter, B.A., late of Trinity College, Dublin, aged 38 years.


I don't have Frederic(k)'s parents or Jane's mother's name yet. There are 9 possible deaths for Jane in NSW so it will take some time to sort through them. The trees have no details on either of them apart from the marriage.

Looking for more info prior to 1857 on Frederic(k) and Jane.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

This looks like Frederic in 1851..

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: London
County: Middlesex
RD: Marylebone
Sub-RD: St Mary
ED: 4; Piece: 1489; Folio: 131; Page: 18

William Gale 69
Ann Gale 63
Mary Ann Gale 29
William Gale 28
Frederic Messiter 29 Visitor [b. Malmsbury. Teacher of Classics]
Clara Fung 20
Susan Chappel 19

Geoff

 

[horse]

FS has this in 1841..

RD: Malmesbury
Sub-RD: Malmesbury Western
Parish: St Paul Malmesbury
County: Wiltshire

Fredrick Messiter 20 [b. Wilthshire]

Geoff

 

[horse]

There is one unsourced tree that has his parents as:

James Messiter 1782 - 1829
Sarah 1779 - 1835

Possible:
James Messiter
Baptism Date: 14 Apr 1782
Baptism Place: Sutton Benger, Wiltshire
Father: Willm Messiter
Mother: Frances
FHL Film Number: 1279430

And possible probates..
James Messiter
Probate Date: 23 Sep 1829
Residence: Malmesbury, Wiltshire

Sarah Messiter
Probate Date: 17 May 1836
Residence: Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England

Geoff

 

[horse]

Interesting name variants, Dave. Couldn't see the marriage in the index until this popped up..

Jane Price
Spouse : Frederic Messiler
Marriage Date: 1857
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Balmain, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1857
Registration Number: 1060

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Intreresting that the 1860 burial record has his profession as Drapers assistant.

Does that tree have anything on Jane?

So, arrival 1851-1857.

Not on Assisted to NSW or Qld. or Vic. Index.

 

[DaveHam9]

Unassisted to Victoria:

MESSITER JANE MRS 40 -JAN 1856 CLASMERDEN B 104 004
MESSITER JANE MISS 8 ---JAN 1856 CLASMERDEN B 104 004

MESSITER JOSIAH MR 24 --JAN 1856 CLASMERDEN B 104 004
MESSITER THOMAS MR 30 -JAN 1856 CLASMERDEN B 104 004

 

[DaveHam9]

Jane remarried in NSW:

2nd 191/1861 DAVIES JOHN - MESSITER JANE - SYDNEY

 

[horse]

Thanks Geoff.

Intreresting that the 1860 burial record has his profession as Drapers assistant.

Also interesting, in 1842 he was said to be bankrupt (unsourcesd tree) had a Tailor's shop in Gloucestershire with bro. Edward Stephens Messiter, I couldn't find anything to substantiate it...

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm not too much worried about Frederic's siblings.

So, still don't have his arrival.

Not much known about Jane yet.

Dave

 

[horse]

Strange his birth/bap. can't be found yet, this may be a brother, he is also mentioned in his mothers will, though very difficult to read, I just noticed William Williams...

William Williams Messiter
Birth Date: 25 Feb 1809
Birth Place: St Paul Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England
Event Type: Birth
Father: James Messiter
Mother: Sarah
Denomination: Baptist
Piece Title: Piece 2238: Malmesbury, Abbey Row (Baptist), 1794-1837

In 1851 there is a bro. Charles Staying with William, they are in Middlesex, as was Frederic

Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County: Middlesex
RD: Hackney
Sub-RD: Hackney
ED: 26; Piece: 1505; Folio: 627; Page: 49

Wm Messiter 42 Mar [b. Malmesbury. Commercial something]
Emma Messiter 28
Annie Messiter 3
Edward Messiter 1
Charles Messiter 28 Wid' [b. Malmesbury. Chemist]
Sarah Gibbins 16 [House servant]

 

[horse]

I'm not too much worried about Frederic's siblings.

So, still don't have his arrival.

Not much known about Jane yet.

Dave

Ah! Ok.. will recheck.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

 

[horse]

There is this, the J on the image could be something else as it doesn't have the same long stroke as the J above and below

J Messeter
Port of Departure: London
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 15 May 1855
Vessel Name: Walter Hood
[Description = Traveller]

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I call that an 'F' :biggrin:

 

[horse]

Thanks Geoff.

I call that an 'F' :biggrin:

Absolutely :biggrin:

 

[horse]

Possible...

Jane Price
Baptism Date: 30 Jul 1837
Baptism Place: Rodborough, Gloucester, England
Father: William Price
Mother: Anne
FHL Film Number: 855706

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

If the right parents then this might be the right death out of 9 possible:

9335/1931 DAVIES JANE - WILLIAM - ANN - WAVERLEY

Ruled out by age:

DAVIES Jane Death notice 09JAN1931 Death 73 at Bondi Sydney Morning Herald 10JAN1931

 

[horse]

If the right parents then this might be the right death out of 9 possible:

9335/1931 DAVIES JANE - WILLIAM - ANN - WAVERLEY

Ruled out by age:

DAVIES Jane Death notice 09JAN1931 Death 73 at Bondi Sydney Morning Herald 10JAN1931

Nearly

Did they have a child Mabel Annie Mason Davies?

 

[DaveHam9]

12001/1890 DAVIES JANE UNKNOWN UNKNOWN ST LEONARDS

Ruled out by age:

DAVIES Jane Death notice 25MAY1890 Death 53 at Lavender Bay, North Shore Sydney Morning Herald 26MAY1890

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6297/1901 DAVIES JANE - WILLIAM - JANE - NEWTOWN

No age:

DAVIES Jane Death notice 19APR1901 Death at Prince Alfred Hospital Sydney Morning Herald 20APR1901