Frederick Charles Ives. 22 July 1906. Naas, Ireland.

[p.risboy]

Parents - Frederick William Ives(Sergeant ASC), and Esther(nee.Leech).

I bit of a mystery in England after the 1911 census.

There is a shipping record for a possible candidate.

Departed - 2nd Nov.1922. P&O. S.S. Balranald. Port of London. Australia bound.

Aged 17, Occ Farming. of 90, Totteridge Road, High Wycombe.

Anything to find in Oz.

Steve.

 

[gibbo]

IVES FREDERICK CHARLES 1905 — 1922 Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
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South Australia marriage index
1936 366/1073
IVES Frederick Charles
HAMILTON Elsie Merle
District Flinders
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Death notice
Advertiser IVES Frederick Charles 1995
Advertiser IVES Elsie Merle 2003
Cemetery .. also photo of cemetery plagues
http://www.australiancemeteries.com.au/sa/cleve/clevedata.htm

 

[gibbo]

Port Lincoln Times (SA : 1927 - 1954)
Fri 3 Apr 1936
IVES— HAMILTON WEDDING
CLEVE, March 26. — The marriage of Merle, eldest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. H. Hamilton, of Cleve to Fredrick second eldest son of Mr. and Mrs F. H. Ives, of Hignwycomb Buckinghamshire, England, was solemnised at the home of the brides parents by Rev. R. L. H. Tilbrook on Saturday. etc etc

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/96724527

 

[p.risboy]

Father Frederick H Ives. The H means another search to rule the fella out.:2fun:

On hold for now, until I find out who he is in High Wycombe.

Thanks Gibbo.

Steve.

 

[gibbo]

Father Frederick H Ives. The H means another search to rule the fella out.:2fun:

Could even just be a error with his initials

 

[p.risboy]

Could even just be a error with his initials

I would be happier if his mothers name was mentioned, just relying on a possible error of the H letter, makes me nervous, and HAMMOND.:2fun:

 

[p.risboy]

I can find no births in Buckinghanshire for 1906+/-1 year, no baptisms, not one born in Bucks in the 1911 census, nor living in Bucks, and born elsewhere in 1911. census. No marriages for his father in Bucks, with an H in his name.
So maybe he's the right fella.

Unless someone knows different.

Steve.

 

[rupert]

Port Lincoln Times (SA : 1927 - 1954)
Fri 3 Apr 1936
IVES— HAMILTON WEDDING
CLEVE, March 26. — The marriage of Merle, eldest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. H. Hamilton, of Cleve to Fredrick second eldest son of Mr. and Mrs F. H. Ives, of Hignwycomb Buckinghamshire, England, was solemnised at the home of the brides parents by Rev. R. L. H. Tilbrook on Saturday. etc etc

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/96724527

Following on from Gibbo, this is correct, just a typo with H

Taken from S.A marriage cd

Frederick Charles IVES
Elsie Merle HAMILTON
married 21st March 1936
Res of H C Hamilton of Cleve

father of groom - Frederick William IVES
father of bride - Henry Charles HAMILTON


Rupert

 

[p.risboy]

And Rupert knows different.:2fun:

Thank you all very much.O0

Steve.

 

[gibbo]

Sorry i disappeared, had to go and check the parents.

Frederick was a "Barwell boy"

IVES, Frederick C. Balranald 1922 DOB 22/7/06 File 536

http://www.archives.sa.gov.au/sites/default/files/GRG7_19_0.pdf

http://migration.history.sa.gov.au/events/2013/barwell-boys-centenary-sas-british-farm-apprentices

The South Australian Farm Apprentice Scheme (also known as the Barwell Boy scheme) was devised by the then Premier of South Australia, Henry Barwell, to replace in some measure the 6000 South Australian men who died in World War 1. Boys (generally in their late teens) emigrated to South Australia and were assigned to a South Australian farmer as a 'farm apprentice'. Once they arrived the boys were paid a wage from which their passage money was repaid.

 

[p.risboy]

Married 1921, sailed back 1922.

Must have come back and then returned to Oz.

15 years old when he married, 17 on sailing to Oz in 1922.

Hmmm, somethings amiss.

Steve.

 

[gibbo]

Following on from Gibbo, this is correct, just a typo with H

Taken from S.A marriage cd

Frederick Charles IVES
Elsie Merle HAMILTON
married 21st March 1921
Res of H C Hamilton of Cleve

father of groom - Frederick William IVES
father of bride - Henry Charles HAMILTON


Rupert

Rupert can you check the year of marriage please. 1921 but the newspaper has 1936

 

[rupert]

Rupert can you check the year of marriage please. 1921 but the newspaper has 1936

Damn typo button :biggrin:

should be 1936

Rupert

 

[gibbo]

Damn typo button :biggrin:

should be 1936

Rupert

Yeah dont know why they have them buttons :biggrin:

 

[gibbo]

Steve you need anymore for this one?

 

[p.risboy]

Steve you need anymore for this one?

No thanks Gibbo, and many thanks to you both, and stockpot.

 

[TraceyI]

Parents - Frederick William Ives(Sergeant ASC), and Esther(nee.Leech).

I bit of a mystery in England after the 1911 census.

There is a shipping record for a possible candidate.

Departed - 2nd Nov.1922. P&O. S.S. Balranald. Port of London. Australia bound.

Aged 17, Occ Farming. of 90, Totteridge Road, High Wycombe.

Anything to find in Oz.

Steve.

Hi Steve,
I know its been a couple of years since you were researching Fred and Fred, just wanting to know your connection. That is my direct family here in Australia and I would be very interested to find out what you know.

 

[p.risboy]

He is a Cousin, once removed. Same 'blood', same surname.

So that makes you my cousin, and me yours.

His Grandparents are Isaac Ives, and Emma Crook......Gt Grandparents are Thomas Ives & Rosetta Free.

Steve.

 

[TraceyI]

He is a Cousin, once removed. Same 'blood', same surname.

So that makes you my cousin, and me yours.

His Grandparents are Isaac Ives, and Emma Crook......Gt Grandparents are Thomas Ives & Rosetta Free.

Steve.

Hi Steve,
I would like to continue this conversation more, but tomorrow, I need to go to bed, it's 10.30pm and I have work tomorrow. But just quickly, Frederick Charles is my Grandfather and yes we all still live in Australia, and another 1st cousin has help fill me in gaps. I never met my G. Grandfather and my dad knows nothing of him, but I do have photos and a button from his military jacket. I have photos of his medals. Anyway I probably need to contact you off this site as many relatives are still alive but that for another day.
Goodnight.... not sure if I'm going to get much sleep now!

 

[p.risboy]

Okey dokes.

Steve.