Frederick James HANCOCK

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 10916/1943 HANCOCK FREDRICK JAMES - STIMSON MARY DOROTHY THOMSON - MANLY

Looking to confirm this is the right death.

HANCOCK FREDERICK JAMES 33069/1961 JAMES MARIA - MANLY

HANCOCK Frederick James Death notice 13DEC1961 Death 66 late of Manly Sydney Morning Herald 14DEC1961

Thanks,

Dave

 

[Bootzy]

SMH – tue 10 NOV 1936 – divorce STIMSON v STIMSON
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/... stimson&searchLimits=l-state=New+South+Wales

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/...rm=mary dorothy thomson stimson&searchLimits=

SMH – 1990
Hancock Mary Dorothy (Dolly) May 4 1990 of Manly, dearly loved wife of Fred (dec). Remembered lovingly by all her family and friends. Aged 82 years.
On findagrave buried French’s Forest Cemetery Northern Beaches – Section RC, Row D3 Plot 44

pos for Frederick’s 1st marriage
1917 St Leanords to Mary M Barratt

Frederick James Hancock died 15 Dec 1961 buried French’s Forest Cemetery – same plot as Mary Dorothy Hancock.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

ACI
Hancock Frederick James 15 Dec 1961 66 Frenchs Forest NSW RC D3, 44

BDM and Ryerson have death as 13th.

Hancock Mary Dorothy 8 May 1990 82 Frenchs Forest NSW RC D3, 44

 

[DaveHam9]

Age does not fit?

Birth 2827/1898 WOOD MARY D T - REGINALD - AGNES - DUBBO * 5 Mar

 

[DaveHam9]

Using age at death there is this one but parents don't match.

Birth HANCOCK FREDERICK J 23661/1894 FREDERICK L - MARY A - NEWCASTLE

If parents are James & Maria then I can't find their marriage in NSW index.

 

[DaveHam9]

I didn't find a death for Mary M before 1943 so ...

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17597809
The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Fri 28 Jul 1939 Page 6 IN DIVORCE.
HANCOCK v HANCOCK.
Frederick James Hancock v Mary Magdalen
Hancock (formerly Barratt). Marriage, Sep-
tember, 1917, at Lavender Bay. Issue, deser-
tion. Decree nisi. Mr. A. H. Ferguson (in-
structed by Mr. G. G. Tremlett, Sydney agent
for Mr. Val Ackerman, of Hunter's Hill) for
petitioner.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/247772905
The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1931 - 1954) Fri 28 Jul 1939 Page 2 Divorces Wife Who Won Lottery

 

[DaveHam9]

Birth for Frederick James. ??

 

[Bootzy]

Frederick James Hancock b 1880 NSW to James Hancock & Maria Eden
but...
on death notice for Maria Hancock – Catholic Press Thu 23 Oct 1941 doesn’t mention Frederick in children
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/106360959?searchTerm=maria%20hancock&searchLimits=l-state=New+South+Wales|||l-category=Family+Notices|||l-decade=194

tree has this death for James Hancock
Newcastle Morning Herald – 31 Dec 1913 – aged 50 years
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/135750599?searchTerm=john%20hancock&searchLimits=l-state=New+South+Wales|||l-category=Family+Notices|||l-decade=191

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

Both ages at death have to be way out. Mary should be about 92 and Frederick abt 81.

It's in the index twice but it's a volume I can't look up.

HANCOCK FREDERICK J 2024/1880 V18802024 159 JAMES - EDEN

 

[Bootzy]

Frederick James Hancock b ? married 29 Sept 1917 Mary Magdalene Barratt (1893-1972) – divorced July 1939 (Mary deserted), married 2nd 1943 Mary Dorothy Stimson nee Wood (1908-1990) – died 1961 Manly NSW

St Michael’s Surrey Hills 17 March 1945 Marriage - Frederick George Robert Andrews a boiler maker & Dorothy Patricia Hancock clerk of 51 Sydney Rd Manly spinster age 24 daughter Frederick James Hancock a wharf something & Mary Magdalene Barrett

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.


1913
Hamilton or manly
HANCOCK Maria
HANCOCK Frederick James

They may or may not be at same address.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[Bootzy]

Working on one born 1894 – Frederick Lawrence Hancock b 1870 died 30 May 1966 Meredith House Homebush age 96 buried Waverley Roman Catholic grave 996-97 – married Mary Ann Oleary 1893 Newcastle

Newcastle Morning Herald – Sat 22 April 1893
HANCOCK – O’LEARY – At St John’s Church Newcastle on 28 March by the Rev F D Bode, Frederick Lawrence, 5th son of John Hancock of Dungong to Mary Ann, second daughter of the late John O’Leary of Cooranbong.

Mary Ann Hancock died Sept 1945 NSW – John & Eliza – Kingsford NSW

 

[Bootzy]

Ryerson Index
Frederick Lawrence Hancock death notice 30 May 1966 late of Kingsgrove formerly of Kingsford SMH 2 June 1966 age 96 & SMH 4 June 1966

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

This is the known correct starting point so it depends on the initial in the index.

Marriage 10916/1943 HANCOCK FREDRICK JAMES - STIMSON MARY DOROTHY THOMSON - MANLY

So J= James for births

HANCOCK JAMES F 47664/1918 FREDERICK J - MARY M - ST LEONARDS
HANCOCK LORNA I 42743/1919 FREDERICK J - MARY M - CASINO

It just looks as though ages at death for both are way out.

 

[DaveHam9]

How did we get John Hancock at Hamilton?

Oh, only if it is Frederick L.

For Frederick James we are looking for death of his father James.

Then Maria, wife of John, does not fit.

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriage and deaths for James Hancock and Maria.

 

[horse]

Thanks Val.


1913
Hamilton or manly
HANCOCK Maria
HANCOCK Frederick James

They may or may not be at same address.

Something to ponder..

NSW E/R 1913 Tenterfield - Bonalbo
Hancock Frederick James, Bonalbo, grazier

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Death HANCOCK MARIA 11778/1942 THOMAS - EMMA - NORTH SYDNEY * 5 Jun

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17799738

... Fred ...

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

With marriage in Manly it's had to know where Frederick was born or where his parents James and Maria lived at that time or later on.

That 1942 death might not be right even with a son named Fred. Aged 76 in 1942 and Frederick born 1880. ??

HANCOCK JOHN A 30149/1891 JAMES MARIA - REDFERN
HANCOCK HAROLD J 1717/1894 JAMES MARIA - SYDNEY
HANCOCK JAMES F 30/1896 JAMES MARIA - SYDNEY
HANCOCK WALTER J 9392/1897 JAMES MARIA - SYDNEY
HANCOCK VINCENT A 26069/1900 JAMES MARIA - ST LEONARD

Marriage to fit above births ??
1242/1890 HANCOCK JAMES - GRAY MARY - SYDNEY

Dave

 

[horse]

NSW E/R 1913 Tenterfield - Bonalbo
Hancock Frederick James, Bonalbo, grazier

This may be the same Frederick?

Casino, New South Wales, Australia, Hospital Admissions and Burial Records, 1913-1997:
Frederick James Hancock
Death Age: 87
Event Type: Burial
Birth Year: Abt 1881
Death Date: 10 May 1968
Death Place: New South Wales
Burial or Service Date: 11 May 1968
Cemetery: Old Bonalbo Cemetery
Burial Place: New South Wales
Religion: Church of England/Anglican
Notes: Foot end William J Studdon


Geoff