Frederick POPPENHAGEN

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 830/1865 POPPENHAGEN FREDERICK - SHARP ANNA L - SYDNEY

The Sydney Morning Herald - Fri 29 Sep 1865 p.1
MARRIAGES
On the 28th instant, at St. James's Church, by the Rev. Canon Allwood, Frederick, second son of J. F. Poppenhagen, Esq., Collector of Customs, Hamburg, to Anne Lucinda, fifth daughter of the late Mr. William Sharp, of Davenport, England.

Birth 1528/1866 POPPENHAGEN FREDERICK - FREDERICK - ANNA L - SYDNEY

Name changed by Deed Poll in 1916.

Death 23408/1964 TOWNSEND FREDERICK - FREDERICK POPPENHAGEN - LUCINDA - AUBURN * 24 Jun

The Sydney Morning Herald - Fri 26 Jun 1964 p.22
DEATHS
TOWNSEND, Frederick.-Of Collaroy, ... , formerly of the Lands Department, aged 97 years.

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Death POPPENHAGEN FREDERICK 3857/1876 FREDERICK LUCINDA - WATERLOO

 

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Marriage 3380/1893 EDWARDS OWEN N - POPPENHAGEN LUCINDA - GLEBE

 

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Marriage 3380/1893 EDWARDS OWEN N - POPPENHAGEN LUCINDA - GLEBE

Can't see a birth reg., trees have Frederick 1866 and Lucinda 1867 as siblings. There is this in Trove, so looks possible. Not checked all the entries yet.

Geoff

 

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POPPENHAGEN LUCINDA
1909/1867
FREDERICK
ANNA L
SYDNEY

 

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Thanks, Gibbo.. I couldn't get on NSW BMD, so had to rely on Anc.

Geoff

 

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Im confused, not even sure what im looking for.
Is Anna L and Lucinda the same person or 2 different families.

NSW births ....
POPPENHAGEN FREDERICK 1528/1866 FREDERICK ANNA L SYDNEY
POPPENHAGEN LUCINDA 1909/1867 FREDERICK ANNA L SYDNEY
POPPENHAGEN AGATHE 3691/1872 FREDERICK ANNA LUCINDA NEWTOWN

POPPENHAGEN HENRIETTA 460/1869 FREDERICK LUCINDA SYDNEY
POPPENHAGEN HENRICH 2271/1870 FREDERICK LUCINDA SYDNEY
POPPENHAGEN MALVINE 5410/1874 FREDERICK LUCINDA WATERLOO
POPPENHAGEN BERTHA 5545/1876 FREDERICK LUCINDA WATERLOO
POPPENHAGEN FLORENCE 5963/1877 FREDERICK LUCYNDA WATERLOO

POPPENHAGEN AGATHA 6033/1896 FREDERICK J CAROLINE L ORANGE
POPPENHAGEN NORMAN 1651/1898 FREDERICK CAROLINE L BOURKE

NSW deaths
POPPENHAGEN FREDERICK 3857/1876 FREDERICK LUCINDA WATERLOO
POPPENHAGEN HEINRICH 1405/1871 FREDERICK LUCYNDA SYDNEY
POPPENHAGEN MALIVIENE 4049/1875 FREDERICK LUCUIDA WATERLOO

 

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Im confused, not even sure what im looking for.
Is Anna L and Lucinda the same person or 2 different families.

NSW births ....
POPPENHAGEN FREDERICK 1528/1866 FREDERICK ANNA L SYDNEY
POPPENHAGEN LUCINDA 1909/1867 FREDERICK ANNA L SYDNEY
POPPENHAGEN AGATHE 3691/1872 FREDERICK ANNA LUCINDA NEWTOWN

POPPENHAGEN HENRIETTA 460/1869 FREDERICK LUCINDA SYDNEY
POPPENHAGEN HENRICH 2271/1870 FREDERICK LUCINDA SYDNEY
POPPENHAGEN MALVINE 5410/1874 FREDERICK LUCINDA WATERLOO
POPPENHAGEN BERTHA 5545/1876 FREDERICK LUCINDA WATERLOO
POPPENHAGEN FLORENCE 5963/1877 FREDERICK LUCYNDA WATERLOO

POPPENHAGEN AGATHA 6033/1896 FREDERICK J CAROLINE L ORANGE
POPPENHAGEN NORMAN 1651/1898 FREDERICK CAROLINE L BOURKE

I'm assuming Lucinda and Anna L are the same person..

Her and Frederick b. 1866 look to have the same parents Frederick and Anna L

Geoff

 

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I'm assuming Lucinda and Anna L are the same person..

In some records. Lucinda was supposed to be the name she was born with..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Thanks gibbo.

I am totally confused.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, the marriage in post #2 is the Lucinda born 1867.

The Frederick born 1866 died in 1964 and his mother's name changes from Anna L at his birth to Lucinda at his death.

The death in 1876 ?? if that is the one who married in 1865 then his father should be J F ?? Or Frederick if names are reversed but too much of a coincidence his mother was a Lucinda ? The wrong death or the right death with errors for parents?

A death for Anna/Lucinda nee SHARP?

 

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The Frederick born 1866

3647/1895 POPPENHAGEN FREDERICK - TOWNSEND CAROLINE L - ORANGE

The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW) - Sat 8 Jun 1895 p.1
Marriages.
POPPENHAGEN - TOWNSEND.-On May 22, at the Manse, St. John's Church, Orange, by the Rev. W. G. Maconochie, M.A., Frederick Poppenhagen, jun., of the District Survey Office, Orange, to Caroline Louisa (Carrie), fifth daughter of the late Thomas Townsend, Esq., of Orange.

He took his wife's family name by deed poll in 1916.

 

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The last birth is this one

POPPENHAGEN FLORENCE 5963/1877 FREDERICK LUCYNDA - WATERLOO * 1 Jul


Death POPPENHAGEN FREDERICK 3857/1876 FREDERICK LUCINDA - WATERLOO * 12 Jun

That can't fit.

 

[DaveHam9]

The one who died in 1876 must be this one

Birth POPPENHAGEN FREDERICK 1528/1866 FREDERICK ANNA L - SYDNEY

 

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A summary.

Deaths required for the two who married in 1865.

 

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POPPENHAGEN LUCINDA
14584/1901
Father SHARP
Mother JULIA
NEWTOWN

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/14416431

According to one of the death notices he was still alive.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Perhaps yesterday I searched for a death using Anna. Dunno.

Yes, looks like a death after 1901.

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't see a marriage yet to Henrietta to explain these two deaths

POPPENHAGEN JOHANN C C 12307/1914 FREDERICK HENRIETTA - WAVERLEY

POPPENHAGEN FREDERICK 11023/1903 FREDERICK HENRIETTA - NEWTOWN

 

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POPPENHAGEN J F Death notice 28OCT1873 Death 77 at Hamburg Maitland Mercury 20DEC1873
POPPENHAGEN J F Death notice 08OCT1873 Death 77 at Hamburg Sydney Morning Herald 19DEC1873
POPPENHAGEN Johann Christian Carson Death notice 17AUG1914 Death late of Waverley and Singleton Sydney Morning Herald 18AUG1914
POPPENHAGEN Lucinda Death notice 15OCT1901 Death 58 at Newtown Sydney Morning Herald 17OCT1901
POPPENHAGEN Frederick Death notice 14JUL1903 Death 75 late of Newtown Sydney Morning Herald 16JUL1903

 

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1873
DEATHS
On the 8th October, at Hamburg, at the age of 77 years,
J. F. POPPENHAGEN, Administrator of Customs for that port, and
father of C. and F. Poppenhagen, of this colony.

So, C = JCC and the two deaths in #17 should have father as J F.

 

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POPPENHAGEN FREDERICK 11023/1903 FREDERICK HENRIETTA - NEWTOWN

Same address on the below notice to the Lucinda 1901 funeral notice.

Sydney Mail 22 July 1903

POPPENHAGEN.— July 14, at 54 Susan-street, Newtown, Sydney, Frednrick Poppenhagen, sen., aged 73.